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by Heck148
Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's Brandenburg Concertos
Replies: 12
Views: 732

Re: Bach's Brandenburg Concertos

I certainly have not heard a piano version of these works as of yet. I do remember a version that used soprano sax rather than picc trumpet in #2. Was that a Casals recording? Yes, I believe so, Casals used a soprano sax instead of trumpet....supposedly, a trumpet player expired while trying to pla...
by Heck148
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: George Szell: Complete EMI (Warner) Recordings
Replies: 13
Views: 1037

Re: George Szell: Complete EMI (Warner) Recordings

Szell's Cleveland recordings have always seemed much to stiff and rigidly controlled to me with a few exceptions . They see like the work of a control freak Yes, Szell was a control freak, extremely so, the stories are legend - but, he could let it loose, and when he did the results are quite elect...
by Heck148
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Copland's Lincoln Portrait with New York Philharmonic and Carl Sandburg
Replies: 2
Views: 270

Re: Copland's Lincoln Portrait with New York Philharmonic and Carl Sandburg

I acquired this wonderful recording years ago, on a cassette tape - the concert also included Wm Schuman's New England Triptych - best recording of it I've ever heard....the 2nd mvt - "When Jesus Wept" is most moving - the solo work of Wm Polisi [bssn] and Harold Gomberg [ob] is superb. all the way....
by Heck148
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!
Replies: 12
Views: 1026

Re: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!

Hello, Heck148! Always glad to hear from you! Reiner is, IMHO, one of the few consistently great conductors of the past century. The only recording of his that I don't care for is his Alexander Nevsky, which I find uneven. I preferred Thomas Schippers's account recorded in NY in the 1960's, and sti...
by Heck148
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!
Replies: 12
Views: 1026

Re: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!

Some of those Reiner/PittsSO recordings are real gems - and in surprisingly good sound, as well - Ravel - La Valse from 4/47 - best "La Valse" I've ever heard, I have a blue label Columbia Masterworks ML4021 " Unbreakable" lp with Reiner/Pitts playing "La Valse " and Debussy's " Iberia " . Shall ha...
by Heck148
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!
Replies: 12
Views: 1026

Re: Fritz Reiner: Pittsburgh SO Recordings on CD Finally!

Some of those Reiner/PittsSO recordings are real gems - and in surprisingly good sound, as well - Ravel - La Valse from 4/47 - best "La Valse" I've ever heard, in knockout sound [Pristine Audio] - wonderful detail, plus the big sweep of sound. Shostakovich - Sym #6 - 3/45 - another great one - good-...
by Heck148
Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing
Replies: 6
Views: 762

Re: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing

A professor once told me that the N.Y. Philharmonic had the best personnel because it was New York but I'm beginning to feel that the orchestra of the 1940s and 1950s was one in decline until the arrival of Bernstein and later Boulez. Actually, the NYPO in the 40s and 50s was a great orchestra, one...
by Heck148
Tue May 12, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosalind Elias, a Popular American Mezzo-Soprano, Dies at 90
Replies: 9
Views: 2806

Re: Rosalind Elias, a Popular American Mezzo-Soprano, Dies at 90

Yes, lovely stories. Is the implication of the late arrival and wrong shoes that conductor and soloist were making the beast with two backs before the performance? Sorry, you need to spell it out for uncouth Australians... :D Yes, that was indeed the "implication"!! :mrgreen: Walter Hendl was known...
by Heck148
Mon May 11, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosalind Elias, a Popular American Mezzo-Soprano, Dies at 90
Replies: 9
Views: 2806

Re: Rosalind Elias, a Popular American Mezzo-Soprano, Dies at 90

When I was at music school, Rosalind Elias came to appear as guest artist with the Philharmonia, the school's top orchestra...She sang a number of selections from "Carmen", and a couple other numbers - but the Bizet arias were most memorable...Walter Hendl conducted...obviously they had worked toget...
by Heck148
Mon May 04, 2020 11:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A Superb Planets from an unexpected conductor and orchestra
Replies: 3
Views: 1933

Re: A Superb Planets from an unexpected conductor and orchestra

Some of the "Asian" orchestras are quite good...there is a huge proliferation of Asian string players, mainly violinists, and many young Americans wind players have sought and gained positions in these orchestras...they are well-funded, and vacancies in US orchestras are few, and competition is brut...
by Heck148
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Loud, Louder, Loudest: How Classical Music Started to Roar
Replies: 8
Views: 3501

Re: Loud, Louder, Loudest: How Classical Music Started to Roar

Heck148-- Thanks for such a deeply informative post! Glad to know you're still lurking. Please post more often, when you can. :) I would say that, as halls have gotten larger, especially in America, the decibel level to fill them has also grown. Yes, indeed!! larger concert halls have certainly mad...
by Heck148
Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Loud, Louder, Loudest: How Classical Music Started to Roar
Replies: 8
Views: 3501

Re: Loud, Louder, Loudest: How Classical Music Started to Roar

It's true that orchestras have gotten louder....this is certainly true post WWII - this was definitely true in America, but it occurred in Europe as well... Imo, this trend began developing before the war - orchestras like NBC, NYPO, and then Chicago began producing unprecedented sound levels...some...
by Heck148
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons
Replies: 12
Views: 6636

Re: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons

I've always been drawn to that second theme in the finale. I found it the catchiest part of it. I was a teenager when I was first getting to know it, and I found that little syncopation really charming. "Hey, Tchaikovsky's gettin' jazzy!", I thought. And then when he really goes to town with it in ...
by Heck148
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A loss
Replies: 54
Views: 24458

Re: A loss

so sorry to hear this....I met John when he was in Boston....very fine visit. John was very intelligent, knowledgeable and articulate..he will be missed...
by Heck148
Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 16253

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

Like orchestras in general, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't . No matter what the music director, guest conductors and administrative staff in charge of programming choose in any given season , someone will complain bitterly . The NY Phil. either doesn't play enough new music or ...
by Heck148
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 14610

Re: John Corigliano

I very much appreciate this information and your comments. Thank you. Another good piece by Corigliano - Flute Concerto "Pied Piper Fantasy" ['81] - an extensive tour de force for the soloist and orchestra....the final section - "Children's March" stands alone quite well as an individual presentati...
by Heck148
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 14610

Re: John Corigliano

This is a performance I don't have on record, the Symphony No. 1. I very much enjoyed his Fantasia on an Ostinato and have prepared pianos for this work. But the Symphony No. 1 has a number of recordings. I am thinking about the RCA with Slatkin conducting. Another with Barenboim conducting, and ye...
by Heck148
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 14610

Re: John Corigliano

Thanks so much for this. I'll check them out and see if they're available on U-Tube as well. It should be noted, and this might help your presentation - might make an effective contrast - The Last Gazebo Dance [1972] - Tarantella- was used again by Corigliano in the 2nd mvt [Tarantella] of his Symp...
by Heck148
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 14610

Re: John Corigliano

Some good Corigliano works - - Gazebo Dances - 4 short dances, quite readily approachable - 17 mins - Circus Maximus [Sym #3 for large Wind Ensemble] - neat piece, pretty wild - 35mins/8 mvts [Naxos Disc - Jerry Junkin - Univ of Texas WE] - Three Hallucinations [from Altered States] - good stuff, pr...
by Heck148
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 13 strange deaths of composers ...
Replies: 16
Views: 11323

Re: 13 strange deaths of composers ...

This link comes courtesy of Australia's LIMELIGHT. https://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/features/the-13-strangest-composer-deaths-in-classical-music/ 2 other odd deaths of composers - Wallingford Riegger - (April 29, 1885 – April 2, 1961) - died when he became entangled in the leashes of two fighti...
by Heck148
Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schumann's symphony number 2
Replies: 24
Views: 12768

Re: Schumann's symphony number 2

Schumann Sym #2 is an excellent work...I don't know if it's my favorite Schumann - but as with Brahms - whichever I'm listening to is my favorite at the time!! :) Bernstein/NYPO and Szell are very good - Barenboim/Chicago is excellent and has the best mvt II Scherzo I've ever heard - crackling fast ...
by Heck148
Thu May 23, 2019 10:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

I agree with everything you say except for two words: "except Toscanini." Time after time he demanded that his musicians play the music come è scritto, as written. He was famous for that and praised for it by his enthusiasts. but Toscanini was not a rigid purist, enslaved to merely the notes on the...
by Heck148
Wed May 22, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

I've looked a little further to find out which conductors Toscanini did criticize, if not Furtwängler. "He calls Stokowski and Mengelberg 'clowns' because of their thirst for publicity" - note, not because of Mengelberg's performing style Toscanini thought Mengelberg talked too much on the podium. ...
by Heck148
Tue May 21, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

My point is that Toscanini wanted to establish a universal understanding for how music should go, i. e. basic rules of the road No he didn't! He established the rules of his road, and other conductors (except for WF) submitted to the powerful influence of his music-making as they heard it. Yes, Joh...
by Heck148
Mon May 20, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

I believe Toscanini, Weingartner's motivation for "going by the score" was primarily a reaction to the perceived excesses, and mannerisms that had developed during the Romantic Era - the so-called Austro-German [Liszt-Wagner-Bulow] tradition....in which the conductors sought to insert themselves int...
by Heck148
Fri May 17, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

Well there it is. We probably wouldn't be having this discussion, or it wouldn't have gone on this long, if you and Heck148 didn't dismiss performances I think well of as "erratic," I don't regard Furtwangler's performances as "erratic"...I believe he had what he thought were very sound reasons for...
by Heck148
Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

By the way, concerning fidelity to the score: Furtwangler's extremely fast tempo for the very end of the 9th symphony is controversial, and it's not how I'd like to hear that music. But I got out my score and find that Beethoven marked the passage "Prestissimo" as well as fortissimo, and prestissim...
by Heck148
Tue May 14, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

Also, it seems that the softer, more elegant sound of rotary trumpets would be more difficult to balance with the other brass instruments in the climactic moments of Bruckner and Mahler. Am I right? Orchestras that use both, such as the Staatskapelle Berlin are a mystery to me. yes - I think so. A ...
by Heck148
Mon May 13, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

Heck, the kind of vibrato ridden , blaring trumpet sound may be ideal for Gershwin , but it's grotesquely wrong for composers such as Wagner, Bruckner, Mahler and Richard Strauss etc . It's like an actor playing the role of a German or Austrian aristocrat and using a Brooklyn accent . It was the pr...
by Heck148
Sat May 11, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

The NBC's principal oboe from the beginning to 1943 was Robert Bloom, an excellent player who was a Tabuteau pupil and sounded like it. Nothing harsh about that. The principal flute was John Wummer, who went to the New York Philharmonic in 1942. The clarinetist Augustin Duques wasn't so great. Duqu...
by Heck148
Sat May 11, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Skalkottas' piano works cd
Replies: 3
Views: 5427

Re: New Skalkottas' piano works cd

a few years back played some of his Greek Dances for Orchestra....very fun to play, a bit like "Greek" Bartok!!
by Heck148
Sat May 11, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Young Concert Artists
Replies: 1
Views: 2712

Re: Young Concert Artists

for years, my primary orchestra booked up and coming soloists thru this program....fine artists, many of whom went on to have very successful careers...too many to name...
by Heck148
Sat May 11, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

The main source of coarseness in sound in Toscanini's NBC symphony recordings are the crude, blaring ,vibrato ridden trumpets . The woodwinds also have an unpleasant fluttery rapid vibrato which may have been induced by fear of playing under him for all I know . This interferes with orchestral blen...
by Heck148
Fri May 10, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir John Barbirolli
Replies: 75
Views: 41087

Re: Sir John Barbirolli

That's just guessing. The orchestra's four Jewish players had high-quality replacements; the new concertmaster, Gerhard Taschner, appointed by Furtwängler in 1941 when he was only 19, can be heard on YouTube in solo works and he sounds excellent. If you like you can compare the many wartime perform...
by Heck148
Fri May 10, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir John Barbirolli
Replies: 75
Views: 41087

Re: Sir John Barbirolli

People asked how performers in Germany were able to rehearse and keep up that standard in the middle of the war. Though doubtful about all this, I'm sure these musicians were a 'protected' species, but as to regular rehearsals.... I think the quality of the BPO did suffer during the war...they lost...
by Heck148
Fri May 10, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

Toscanini partisans always say that his tempos were flexible, but while that may have been so in the opera house and in recordings before 1936, it isn't really true of most of his NBC Symphony concerts. His tempos may not have been metronomic but I certainly wouldn't call them flexible. Toscanini c...
by Heck148
Thu May 09, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

....I don't think orchestras such as the Berlin and Vienna Philharmonic etc played all that sloppily " for him . But he wasn't concerned with neatness and accuracy..... for sure...I find that a distraction....I know there was "method to his madness", but it really doesn't click with me. Most of Tos...
by Heck148
Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alex Ross on Furtwangler
Replies: 63
Views: 43962

Re: Alex Ross on Furtwangler

.....Furtwangler may have been "Hitler's favorite conductor," but he's not mine......Some may admire him. I do not. Thanks, John, for posting Alex Ross's most informative review. I tend to agree with you, Maestro...when I first started listening seriously to music I was most impressed by Furtwangle...
by Heck148
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir John Barbirolli
Replies: 75
Views: 41087

Re: Sir John Barbirolli

Sir John Barbirolli was quite popular with musicians...I had a good friend, violinist, who played with him in Houston...he loved Sir John, and had great respect for him. Barbirolli, child of Italian father, French mother, was born in London and grew up there... Sir John was very fluent in at least 3...
by Heck148
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto
Replies: 10
Views: 6545

Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto

VWms Tuba Concerto is a good piece, excellent solo work for tuba....the orchestration, done by one of his students, IIRC, is a bit thick and overdone, but it does not subtract much from the solo piece.... I've played it a few times, once with soloist Sam Pilafian, a virtuoso player [Empire Brass 5te...
by Heck148
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto
Replies: 10
Views: 6545

Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto

John F wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:45 am
I have it on a 10" LP coupled with RVW's oboe concerto played by Evelyn Rothwell, which was actually billed above the tuba concerto on the HMV record jacket.
Evelyn Rothwell, oboist, was Sir John's wife, IIRC...
by Heck148
Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir John Barbirolli
Replies: 75
Views: 41087

Re: Sir John Barbirolli

One of my favorite Barbirolli discs is his Sibelius works with Halle Orchestra [EMI 1/66] - the "Karelia" Suite ,and "Leminkainen's Return" are real highlights... Halle was perhaps not the greatest orchestra, but they are good, and Sir John has them playing with great panache, bravura, on this disc....
by Heck148
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 31
Views: 17365

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

This is a source of aggravation to me!! I'm was planning on going to Chicago next week - to hear 2 concerts - the Also Sprach Zarathustra, Bluebeard's castle concert 4/2; then the 4/4 program with Shostakovich Sym #2, Borodin #2... The April 2nd concert is already cancelled...no word yet on 4/4, but...
by Heck148
Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Daniel Barenboim Seemed Untouchable. Now He’s Accused of Bullying
Replies: 7
Views: 6675

Re: Daniel Barenboim Seemed Untouchable. Now He’s Accused of Bullying

Barenboim's actions seem pretty lukewarm when compared to some of the past tyrants - Toscanini, Reiner, Szell were all domineering tyrants - perhaps worst of all was Rodzinski, who had a volcanic temper and would execute summary firings....Toscanini, for all his histrionics was not known for summary...
by Heck148
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist
Replies: 15
Views: 13797

Re: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist

Might they be looking for anything and everything that may led to her leaving the orchestra? Will they continue to feature her as they have in the past? We'll see, but one would hope that there wouldn't be any retribution as such....it would certainly be grounds for Ms. Rowe to file an action for m...
by Heck148
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Biggest Waste of Money Ever?
Replies: 9
Views: 8281

Re: The Biggest Waste of Money Ever?

The Berlin Philharmonic label has just released a 22-CD set of Wilhelm ​​Furtwängler’s wartime recordings with that orchestra, remastered in SACD. This is probably the most pointless set of recordings ever released. .......Secondly, given that all of the Jewish members of the orchestra had been dis...
by Heck148
Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "Great" new Schubert 9 release...
Replies: 4
Views: 4512

Re: "Great" new Schubert 9 release...

How I do want to hear it is as conducted by Furtwängler with the Berlin Philharmonic in a DG studio recording. But from the versions you prefer, I guess you wouldn't like it. I'm not much of a Furtwangler fan these days. When I first got into classical music -high school - I was greatly attracted t...
by Heck148
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "Great" new Schubert 9 release...
Replies: 4
Views: 4512

"Great" new Schubert 9 release...

I latched on to a real prize – one that I did not know existed – Schubert – Sym #9 in C Major “Great” – Reiner/ChicagoSO – 12/57 - recorded at WGN TV Studios, live broadcast on WBAI Radio NY – http://www.norpete.com/c1632.html This is a great “Great” Symphony performance, and has moved to the top of...
by Heck148
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Salonen Cello Concerto
Replies: 9
Views: 8940

Re: Salonen Cello Concerto

I heard the premiere of this work, live in Chicago with Salonen conducting, Ma as soloist...
by Heck148
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 21563

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

I saw the NY Phil. new year's eve concert on PBS conducted by the new man Jaap Van Zweden , and to my ears the brass section was on its bets behavior and at least on television, nothing was harsh or too loud . I heard van Zweden conduct Shostakovich 5 and Prokofieff 5 in Chicago a couple of years a...