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by slofstra
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Good discussion. I enjoyed the commentary. Is it really true that in a concerto the conductor should have absolute say over tempo? I should think that the tutti's are the window dressing and everyone is assembled to hear the soloist. So I think it should be about making that soloist shine. It's subl...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Yes, John Francis was himself a critic, and he took the issue of integrity in what is written and said about music and musicians very seriously, as do I. I'm extremely grateful for my life in music, both as a performer and a student of music performance, from choral singing in my twenties in Carneg...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

'John F' took the whole business of classical music commentary much more seriously than I do. I don't mean in his own commentary, which was exemplary, but in how he surveys the field versus how I survey the field. I remember he was most upset by a book which spent hundreds of pages methodically rank...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New BIS releases
Replies: 3
Views: 121

Re: New BIS releases

You will enjoy this wide ranging interview with Frank Peter Zimmerman, I think. He talks about the masters and how they influenced him as a child, about performance approaches to the Beethoven VC, which he has played 300 times, and sundry other matters that are all interesting. He mentions the Beeth...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Good morning, gents, and a Happy Labor Day Weekend to you both! Just to clarify, when I spend time with the complete Bach Cantatas, I work them in with other titles from different centuries, so no more than one or two Bach discs a day, thus my ears don't get tired. Remember that I'm trained also in...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Couple more thoughts. I like the Mravinsky's Tchaikovsky symphonies but not half as much as Ormandy. I have quite a number of recordings of these symphonies, including the disappointing HvK. Some of these I haven't aired thoroughly so can't really comment, like an Abbado set and some Concertgebouw r...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Interesting comments about the Richter/Oistrakh/Rostropovich/HvK Beethoven Triple Concerto.Frankly, I've loved that recording ... I remembered the name of the critic. He's not obscure, but sometimes it's embarrassing what I can't bring to mind. https://slippedisc.com/2020/01/a-beethoven-a-day-troub...
by slofstra
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Those are interesting responses. When I don't like something, and the performers are top-tier, then I always wonder if it's just me, which I'm perfectly okay with, or if the issue is more general. So it would seem to be more general. The Triple Concerto with Hvk, with Rostoprovich, Oistrakh and Ric...
by slofstra
Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Four concertoes played by Richter

Those are interesting responses. When I don't like something, and the performers are top-tier, then I always wonder if it's just me, which I'm perfectly okay with, or if the issue is more general. So it would seem to be more general. The Triple Concerto with Hvk, with Rostoprovich, Oistrakh and Rich...
by slofstra
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fritz Werner: Bach Cantata Box
Replies: 3
Views: 100

Re: Fritz Werner: Bach Cantata Box

Bach/Sacred Cantatas/Werner/SW German Chamber Orchestra - I picked up the Bach Sacred Cantata box (Erato) from Arkivmusic for $20.00 on sale. I had been considering this type of purchase, but was thinking of the more expensive versions. Since I had none of these works this seemed the way to go. The...
by slofstra
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Four concertoes played by Richter
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Four concertoes played by Richter

Yesterday I pulled one of the larger Richter boxes I own, and I'm at CDs in the fourties somewhere. What bliss! First, the two concertoes by Liszt, conducted by Kondrashin with the LSO. There is nothing finer in those concertoes, although I've never not enjoyed anyone playing them. But Richter was s...
by slofstra
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Yes, and conductors like the much-admired Labadie in Bach play far too fast for my liking. The music is strangled, and where there are singers they often can't really articulate. He wouldn't have to slow down a lot to let the music breathe just a little and still keep the excitement he wants. I rem...
by slofstra
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Yes, and conductors like the much-admired Labadie in Bach play far too fast for my liking. The music is strangled, and where there are singers they often can't really articulate. He wouldn't have to slow down a lot to let the music breathe just a little and still keep the excitement he wants. I rem...
by slofstra
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

In general, I am a great fan of Haitink as a conductor who puts the music above his own personal glorification. I think that this is very important. The big exception, and, given that I am probably the world's biggest Shostakovich fan, an important exception, is in Russian music, especially Shostak...
by slofstra
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

In general, I am a great fan of Haitink as a conductor who puts the music above his own personal glorification. I think that this is very important. The big exception, and, given that I am probably the world's biggest Shostakovich fan, an important exception, is in Russian music, especially Shostak...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32
Replies: 35
Views: 1728

Re: Beethoven's 32

I've always had the idea of rating the top performances I own of all 32 of the PS that I own. As well as about 10 full sets, I also have many stand alone recordings. To do this I would have to go back and listen to them all again. There are a number of them that I would probably dismiss after a few...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

I see conductors as bringing different strengths to the repertoire. Some, like Haitink, are structuralists and they are bent on bringing the utmost in musicality out of the score itself. There's a desire to understand the composer's intent, although knowing when to bend that is important. ... see a...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Thank you Henry for putting up your appreciation in such detail. It is very well expressed, and I find hardly anything to cavil at. I'm rather with Brian on the Brahms piano concerti though. In some music, Arrau is wonderful; in some, he is not to my taste - as I've written b efore, his Chopin lack...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32
Replies: 35
Views: 1728

Re: Beethoven's 32

There's a pattern to these Beethoven threads. Usually there's a new groundbreaking set that everyone ravishes over. A few years ago that was Richard Goode, more recently Paul Lewis. Then everyone talks about Annie Fischer and the mono Kempff set. A couple of years later there's another breakthrough....
by slofstra
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Hello, Henry! IMHO, Haitink has had an intriguing career. From what you've just posted, it sounds like he was an honest appraiser of his own talents, and that's refreshing. That said, I prefer him as an accompanist: his Beethoven Concerto cycle with Perahia won praise, especially the disc of III & ...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Haitink documentary

Thanks for alerting me to this. I might try a week's sub as you suggest. If you do, check out some of the BPO's post COVID work. I was impressed. They put together a number of smaller ensembles exploring corners of the repertoire. The format could look like stopgap, but I think they made the most o...
by slofstra
Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haitink documentary
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Haitink documentary

I watched the documentary "It comes my way ..." on Bernard Haitink's conducting career last night. Chock full of interesting insights over its 49 minute length. The title comes from Haitink's statement that he wasn't ambitious but that opportunities just came his way. When asked about his Philips re...
by slofstra
Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Aldo Ciccolini Alert
Replies: 6
Views: 174

Re: Aldo Ciccolini Alert

I have really only heard him murder the music of Erik Satie, so I will pass.
by slofstra
Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

I have this set, although I have only dabbled with it. It was very inexpensive when purchased, but now amazon.ca lists it as unavailable.

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by slofstra
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

You know how youtube keeps showing you stuff.
Here's one with Yo Yo Ma, Edgar Meyer, Chris Thile and Stuart Duncan (banjo presumably) performing a song written by Aoife O'Donovan, who peforms with "I'm with Her", in my previous post.
by slofstra
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

I'm not sure how well all of these crossover sessions work out, but it is creative and interesting. Here is Chris Thile as an early teens' mandolin prodigy doing a standard English traditional song in bluegrass. Really, the clip is just to show his raw ability. I've seen the girl on fiddle, Sara Wat...
by slofstra
Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rach3, Where are You?
Replies: 11
Views: 441

Re: Rach3, Where are You?

For a day or so, I was concerned that you might have been upset about me asking you to correct a thread....Glad all is well now. Many thanks for your concerns, and no issue ever about correcting me. After 42 years of marriage ( to the same lady ), and 2 headstrong ( they take after their mother ) 3...
by slofstra
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

Chris Thile’s fast-as-lighting mandolin treatments of the Violin Partitas I just recently heard of this. I have been a fan of Chris Thile for decades, but for his bluegrass work with Nickel Creek, and other musical endeavours including hosting NPR's 'Live from Here', a live roots music show. So the...
by slofstra
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 57
Views: 11010

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

Indeed, that is the one. Pretty spectacular - thanks for the link. I guess it's not much news to say I almost visited it. My son and I had a weekend to spend on a return train trip from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. Hamburg was a stopover and we considered a stay there. Berlin was too much for a couple ...
by slofstra
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

That sounds like it's worth a listen. Bach's work is the most malleable of all music.
by slofstra
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 57
Views: 11010

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

In the late 90s and early 2000s Simone Young was a really fine chief conductor (that might not have been her title) at Opera Australia, including a magnificent Lulu. She left, and eventually went to Hamburg, because her ambitions outstripped what OA beancounters saw as their budget. I'm sure there ...
by slofstra
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rach3, Where are You?
Replies: 11
Views: 441

Re: Rach3, Where are You?

Wow. No news of this up here in Canada, whatsoever. With COVID, domestic political turmoil and the usual array of Trump stupidity, quite a bit of news doesn't get through. For a day or so, I was concerned that you might have been upset about me asking you to correct a thread title typo. Believe me, ...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 57
Views: 11010

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

Barenboim has been a difficult musician to follow, at least for me. His tenure in Chicago produced some good recordings, but I felt there were some careless moments in them. His early attempts as a conductor were also rather facile, although I remember a quite lively Mozart LP. Same with his piano ...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

Playing through the entire Glenn Gould collection is a bit like Forrest Gump's comment on a box of chocolate, "you never know what you're going to get". I began recording my responses after CD #45 and this was a few years ago now. The following had three stars out of three: 47 - Hindemith, Sonatas 1...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

I believe a prime motive for a retreat into the recording studio was to obtain artistic control over his output without various pressures. Yes, I understand that to be the case. He was quite open about it. Have you heard the delightful anecdote below? Gould and Rubinstein were being jointly intervi...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ripping My Classical Music Collection
Replies: 34
Views: 1721

Re: Ripping My Classical Music Collection

I have finally ripped all the CDs (apart from the dodgy ones) in the 'composers' section of my CD collection. Now I move on to pianists/violinists/conductors/chamber ensembles/etc. I reckon I've already ripped about 40% or maybe more of my collection so I am well ahead of the play. Using FLAC Level...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing
Replies: 6
Views: 410

Re: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing

I've been listening to several large scale works from the Sony Barbirolli box (Brahms 2, Sibelius 1 & 2, and some Baroque suites) and find the playing and readings dull. The set wasn't helped by airless sound which led to some wooden phrasing. Sibelius 2 was probably the best of the group. Sibelius...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2
Replies: 7
Views: 362

Re: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2

Glenn Gould always preferred his New York Steinway until it was dropped and "allegedly" brought back to its supposed original condition. He was not happy with the end results and looked around for his next piano, which was a Yamaha. Near as I know, Gould never played nor performed on a Bosendorfer ...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera Foundation Removes Trustee for Racially Charged Comments
Replies: 18
Views: 1050

Re: Opera Foundation Removes Trustee for Racially Charged Comments

One of the posts that really touched the point has been edited. Freedom of Speech, you lot? First Amendment? I think I have to go. As I said, open debate is silenced at the first stroke. Are you quite sure? I looked at your post, and I had quoted it. My quote on August 3rd and your post as of today...
by slofstra
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition
Replies: 21
Views: 671

Re: Glenn Gould Columbia Edition

There were two complete Gould editions in recent years. This is the more recent one. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/813UgEWRsIL._AC_SL1500_.jpg And then this older one, which I have. I listened to it from beginning to end and briefly rated each CD. There's a lot of ups and downs, b...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing
Replies: 6
Views: 410

Re: He Wasn’t Toscanini, but He Made Orchestras Sing

I won't be getting this set, but I thought about it quite seriously. The main reason in favour of purchase is that I'm very much interested in the early 20th century British school (actually, all early 20th C music) and there's a reasonable dollop of this music in this set. I quite enjoyed listening...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2
Replies: 7
Views: 362

Re: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2

Lately I have been listening to Andras Schiff's set of the sonatas. This was a must purchase for me, because 1) Schiff, and 2) ECM. But I mention it here because of the subject of the piano, itself. Schiff switches between a Steinway and a Bosendorfer. But he refuses to indicate which he uses on any...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2
Replies: 7
Views: 362

Re: Paul Lewis - Beethoven Sonata #2

This thread opened up a wonderful memory of seeing Emanuel Ax playing an early Beethoven sonata in recital, which opened up the possibilities of these early works for me. (Richter is incredible with these as well.) So, in Googling for information on when and where I saw this performance, I came upon...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BPO playlist 'Music of our time' - free of charge
Replies: 0
Views: 346

BPO playlist 'Music of our time' - free of charge

I don't know long this playlist will be up, free of charge, but the content is sure to interest CMG participants.

https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/playlist/36

The playlist features the music of Kurtag, Lindberg, Ades and others.
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 57
Views: 11010

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

I asked for counterpoint in my original post and sure got some. It does make me think that I'm missing something that I haven't seen yet. My opinions are always subject to revision, of course, and I appreciate reading everyone's viewpoint. If we all thought the same way there wouldn't be much use f...
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: WQXR 20 essential Mozart recordings
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: WQXR 20 essentila MOzart recordings

Some comments on the top 20. 1) Great Mass. It doesn't make my top 20, as a composition I mean, although on the listeners' poll I posted above it comes in at #15, so evidently people like. The recordings I have are stuffy to say the least. 2) Requiem. My goto version has been from the Academy of St....
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: WQXR 20 essential Mozart recordings
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: WQXR 20 essentila MOzart recordings

By way of comparison, here are the results of a recent listeners' poll and NPO Radio 4 (Dutch classical station).
https://www.nporadio4.nl/images/2019061 ... 50-DEF.pdf
by slofstra
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 57
Views: 11010

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

I asked for counterpoint in my original post and sure got some. It does make me think that I'm missing something that I haven't seen yet. My opinions are always subject to revision, of course, and I appreciate reading everyone's viewpoint. If we all thought the same way there wouldn't be much use fo...
by slofstra
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera Foundation Removes Trustee for Racially Charged Comments
Replies: 18
Views: 1050

Re: Opera Foundation Removes Trustee for Racially Charged Comments

You have freedom of speech, but not freedom from the consequences of your speech. Ask the Dixie Chicks (now the Chicks). Anyone with a high public profile, or representative of an organization with a high public profile has the added burden of needing to moderate their speech, since anything they s...