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by John F
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Why Barenboim is the Ring master of our age
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Why Barenboim is the Ring master of our age

It's good to see the name of Jochen Schmeckenbecher in the cast. He was once a member of CompuServe's Music Forum, and on a trip to Berlin some of us not only saw him as Klingsor at the State Opera but had dinner with him in an incredibly smoky café. Schmecki was a good guy and had stories to tell, ...
by John F
Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: History of sound recordings - BBC
Replies: 0
Views: 30

History of sound recordings - BBC

The BBC is running a five-part series on the radio of the early history of sounc recording. Called "His Master's Voices," it begins by playing the very first discs cut in London in 1898. Very enjoyable as well as informative. The first program is here on the BBC Radio 4 Extra web site: https://www.b...
by John F
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-225-Complete-Handel-Arrangements/dp/B06Y4JDNLN Most of the recordings are by Christopher Hogwood and the Handel and Haydn Society of Boston - competent enough. But fortunately the "Messiah" is the original DG Archiv vrsion led by Charles Mackerras, a good deal more than...
by John F
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A Swiss Orchestra Dances Beyond the Boundaries of Classical Music
Replies: 2
Views: 37

Re: A Swiss Orchestra Dances Beyond the Boundaries of Classical Music

Ms. Meyer, the orchestra’s general director, said that the most frustrating part of her job can be explaining to presenters exactly what category the Camerata belongs to. Is it an orchestra? A dance group? Some kind of music-theater ensemble? The answer to all these questions may be yes. Or more li...
by John F
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Byron Janis, pianist - "On Tour" (Live)
Replies: 4
Views: 63

Re: Byron Janis, pianist - "On Tour" (Live)

Having been Horowitz's pupil, and the most important one at that, he was thought by many to be a second Horowitz, or they thought he ought to be. Since he wasn't really that kind of pianist, he probably disappointed people with such expectations, including me. Eventually I realized my mistake and be...
by John F
Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

I seriously doubt any great artist would do it You're shifting your ground. You wrote, "The thing I dread is that one day, the stage at Carnegie Hall will have an electric piano on stage with the likes of a Horowitz or Rubinstein playing a full program of Chopin!" Assuming as you do that the only a...
by John F
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

Of course, but if all that was available for them to play were an electric keyboard, I'd want to hear them anyway. Wouldn't you?
by John F
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

Ah, but there is a trumpet ("clarino") as required, doubling the violins, though it's rather buried in the strings by Rilling's balance and the church acoustic.
by John F
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

I don't expect you'll be hearing any of Mozart's arramgement of "Messiah," which is just as remarkable as his "Acis and Galatea"or even more so. Hére's "Every valley shall be exalted," with a starring role for the bassoon. iXe10oY1vtA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXe10oY1vtA And "The Trumpet Shal...
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn's Midsummer Nights Dream with Dialogue
Replies: 2
Views: 76

Re: Mendelssohn's Midsummer Nights Dream with Dialogue

Back in the 1950s there was a complete recordng of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" by the Old Vic theatre company, with Mendelssohn's music note-complete conducted by Malcolm Sargent. Mendelssohn composed a lot more music for MND than we ever hear, even in the recordings that go beyond the familiar suit...
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

If "the likes of a Horowitz or Rubinstein" were to appear on the stage of Carnegie Hall today, I wouldn't care what instrument he played!
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How is classical CD buying in Australia?
Replies: 21
Views: 269

Re: How is classical CD buying in Australia?

Nobody "loves taxes," but New Yorkers (this one anyway) love the public services that the tax revenues are spent on, which few other states provide. For example, it costs the MTA more than $15 billion a year to run the region’s massive transit network of trains, buses and subways, 24 hours a day, se...
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

This is great stuff, Lance.
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 299

Re: John Corigliano

OK, I get it. Then if you can only play part of the Corigliano symphony it should be the first movement.
by John F
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

The great Russian pianist, Sviatoslav Richter began using them much of the time I didn't know that. In earlier years, including his first American tour, Richter played a Hamburg Steinway, didn't he? Later on he asserted that pianists shouldn't make a fuss over the instruments they play but use what...
by John F
Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 299

Re: John Corigliano

You're doing 3-4 programs on Corigliano and you don't have time for all of his most important work? Unbelievable. The symphony runs about 40 minutes, less than Beethoven's 7th, and there's no other music by Corigliano that is more worth hearing than what you'd be leavng out. Play the whole thing unl...
by John F
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 299

Re: John Corigliano

Back in 1970, Corigliano and David Hess created an "electric rock opera" based on Bizet's "Carmen" which they called "The Naked Carmen." If you want to shake up your group, play this version of the toreador song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSSvJycr6CM
by John F
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steinway free streaming service
Replies: 27
Views: 433

Re: Steinway free streaming service

I used to go to Hamburg now and then, and always stopped in at Steinway Haus at Colonnaden 29, not to buy a piano but to buy records and books about music. The last time I was there they were having a clearance sale, and I still have a Steinway Haus tote bag which I sometimes carry when I want to sh...
by John F
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Corigliano
Replies: 16
Views: 299

Re: John Corigliano

As I wrote on September 30, "One possibility for your group might be John Corigliano's Symphony No. 1. It's an attested masterpiece of the 1980s (winner of the Grawemeyer Award), it's composed in a listenable style, it tells a story and it relates to a major issue of our time. https://en.wikipedia.o...
by John F
Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In 1919, an Opera Tried to Heal a Broken Europe
Replies: 4
Views: 193

Re: In 1919, an Opera Tried to Heal a Broken Europe

This is all very interesting, but really, "Die Frau ohne Schatten" has nothing to do with postwar Europe in 1919.
by John F
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 4086
Views: 1031015

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

I wonder how much R. Strauss's mild-mannered conducting had to do with the limits of sound reproducing technology at the time, vs. Reiner et al who were able to capitalize on the newer stereo technology used to record them? Not at all. In 1928, Willem Mengelberg and the New York Phlharmonic recorde...
by John F
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

There are indeed some hit tunes in Handel's operas. "Ombra mai fu" is world famous, Polyphemus's "O ruddier than the cherry" is a hoot, and "Love in her eyes sits playing" (in Mozart's arrangement - woodwinds!) is a wonder. M6p6lVVViaU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6p6lVVViaU But it's not typical...
by John F
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

The melody lines in these works, with their twists and turns, are what you find in the operas My point is that I don't find melody lines in the operas. Handel wrote the operas for the star singers of the day, and while I couldn't say exactly how this influenced the style of his many arias, I'm sure...
by John F
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

Which clips wouldn't play? I can probably find substitutes that will.
by John F
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

From the YouTube comments, it's an entrée from Rameau's Les Boréades. Don't know it at all. By far Handel's most popular music, and I mean really popular, is his orchestral works - the Water Music, the Royal Fireworks Music, the concerti grossi op. 6 and op. 3. His solo keyboard music is less well k...
by John F
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 72
Views: 7789

Re: Standards for New Music

it questions the purpose of music. Should it entertain - should it communicate something - or (à la Cage) just be listened to without expectation? Music has no one purpose, of course. A large body of music has been composed for use in religious services, though today it may no longer serve that pur...
by John F
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945
Replies: 19
Views: 1845

Re: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945

I tend to agree regarding Kempff and van Kempen. I have both versions, too. The same with Kempff's two complete versions of the Beethoven piano sonatas. I prefer the mono version, and many others I know do, also. That makes two of us. The earlier sonata cycle I have on American Decca LPs, not ideal...
by John F
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 4086
Views: 1031015

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Strauss's own recordings of his music tend toward understatement, though how he conducted that music when it wasw new we can't tell. The Strauss recordings are informative and I respect them but I don't often listen to them.
by John F
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945
Replies: 19
Views: 1845

Re: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945

barney wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:26 am
To which I'd add Wilhelm Kempff with Ferdinand Leitner, though some prefer an earlier set with Paul van Kampen, and Claudio Arrau.
I'm one of those who likes the Kempff/van Kempen recordings, as the remakes with Leitner are just a bit too dry. But I wouldn't be without either of them.
by John F
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 72
Views: 7789

Re: Standards for New Music

In many cases, only repeated hearings will enable you to decide if you like a new work or not . And if one initially doesn't like a work, you should be willing to give it repeated hearing,s because you could begin to like it more this way . That wasn't Rossini's motto. He reportedly said "it is imp...
by John F
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 1190

Re: The operas of Handel

For me, many of the Handel operas have lyrical highlights, arias on a level of melodic invention that no other composer before Mozart could match. And there are a few that I'm happy to listen to all the way through, like "Acis and Galatea"with the marvelous "Love in her eyes sits playing" and the co...
by John F
Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Elly Ney, piano - early recordings on Appian
Replies: 3
Views: 441

Re: Elly Ney, piano - early recordings on Appian

="Lance" I know there are some on this board that would prefer not to listen to music performed by confirmed Nazi collaborators. And Artur Rubinstein refused ever to play in Germany again after the 1930s. I've no argument against such decisions of conscience, whether just or not. Nor against opposi...
by John F
Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Elly Ney, piano - early recordings on Appian
Replies: 3
Views: 441

Re: Elly Ney, piano - early recordings on Appian

Do we dare to separate the politics from these artist's musical capabilities? We not only dare, we must, if we are to listen to her at all. No one has ever discerned a performance style that is unmistakably and exclusively National Socialist, and no one ever will because there is no such style. Aft...
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jaap Van Zweden as violinist
Replies: 2
Views: 460

Re: Jaap Van Zweden as violinist

Zweden can also be heard anonymously in recordings by the Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra, whose concertmaster he was for years.
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 4086
Views: 1031015

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Anthony Collins's greatest success was as a composer of movie music. Other than that he was a serious musician, but that doesn't explain his many recordings. I believe that had to do with Decca's late start in classical recordings, after other established labels (HMV, Columbia, RCA Victor, etc.) had...
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician
Replies: 32
Views: 2773

Re: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician

Here's Klemperer's Jupiter Symphony from 1954, one of the earlier Mozart recordings I spoke of. The slow movement is taken quite slow, as was typical at the time, but the tempos of the other movements are not slow at all - indeed Klemperer has time to take the exposition repeat in the finale which n...
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 848
Views: 547468

Re: What I listened to today

In 1907, Mahler met Jean Sibelius, whose symphonies are the polar opposite of Mahler's: compressed, distilled, self-referential. The composers discussed the meaning of the symphony. Sibelius admired its "profound logic and inner connection". Mahler completely disagreed: "A symphony must be like the...
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 848
Views: 547468

Re: What I listened to today

After Mahler and many 20th century symphonies, it's no longer very meaningful to talk of following the 'symphony' in terms of form. A symphony today is an orchestral composition of a certain undefined length and weight, sometimes divided into movements but often not, which the composer chooses to ca...
by John F
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 848
Views: 547468

Re: What I listened to today

One possibility for your group might be John Corigliano's Symphony No. 1. It's an attested masterpiece of the 1980s (winner of the Grawemeyer Award), it's composed in a listenable style, it tells a story and it relates to a major issue of our time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._1_(Corig...
by John F
Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 848
Views: 547468

Re: What I listened to today

Sheer magic. How else could 75-year-old flesh and bone do it? It wasn't just Mehta who was relieved to get to the end - I love it when Horowitz pumps the air at 41:42.
by John F
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician
Replies: 32
Views: 2773

Re: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician

Klemperer's recordings of Mozart symphonies in the 1950s are not noticeably slow by the standards of the time, though nowadays the HIP crowd race through them as if to catch the train home.
by John F
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 848
Views: 547468

Re: What I listened to today

Rach3 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:05 am
I have not heard a lot of Judith Weir's music,have not much warmed to most that I have
I've been intrigued by some of her operas, "A Night at the Chinese Opera" and "The Vanishing Bridegroom." Haven't heard much of her since then.
by John F
Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician
Replies: 32
Views: 2773

Re: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician

Another member of the Philharmonia Chorus, recruited and trained by Wilhelm Pitz, wa Suvi Raj Grubb. If you remember the name, I suppose few do, it's because he later became Walter Legge's assistant as producer of recordings for EMI, and eventually Legge's successor. He's written memoirs about that....
by John F
Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician
Replies: 32
Views: 2773

Re: A former Australian PM's relationship to music and one musician

Klemperer's recordng of the German Requiem for EMI is the version I prefer. It's actually quite fast in placesw, the singing of the Philharmonia Chorus is magnificent, and many details (the horns in "Den alles Fleisch") are exciting in ways you may not expect in this music. du4WF48fsZc https://www.y...
by John F
Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Mark Viner: Alkan - Volume 2 - out!
Replies: 8
Views: 937

Re: Pianist Mark Viner: Alkan - Volume 2 - out!

Raymond Lewenthal didn't hop on the Alkan bandwagon, he started it rolling with a famous RCA Victor LP of representative selections. Ronald Smith was also ahead of the game (yes, mixed metaphors) and I still think his recording of Alkan's concerto for solo piano is the finest I've heard. Still older...
by John F
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: 600+ languages spoken in New York
Replies: 0
Views: 447

600+ languages spoken in New York

Keeping the (633) Languages of New York City Alive Sep 24, 2019 · by Arun Venugopal For a long time, people (and Census officials) thought around 200 languages were spoken in New York. Not so, according to Daniel Kaufman of the Endangered Language Alliance. "What we found is there are more than 600 ...
by John F
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945
Replies: 19
Views: 1845

Re: Schnabel/Szell/NYPO LvB PC # 3,live 1945

Maybe that's it, then.
by John F
Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:53 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Impeachment Inquiry Appears To Be On
Replies: 39
Views: 3522

Re: Impeachment Inquiry Appears To Be On

You've forgotten that just as Barack Obama became president the U.;S. economy suffered the worst crash since 1929 - it's called the Great Recession. If the President deserves credit or blame for the state of the economy, a doubtful proposition, then it was Republican George W. Bush who led us into t...
by John F
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brigitte Fassbaender (mezzo) Edition/DGG
Replies: 1
Views: 421

Re: Brigitte Fassbaender (mezzo) Edition/DGG

She was the daughter of the baritone Willi Domgraf-Fassbaender who sang Mozart roles at the first Glyndebourne Festivals of the 1930s and recorded Figaro and Guglielmo under Fritz Busch.