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- Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:10 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Well, while I would say that "any reasonable" and "the greatest" are not in any way compatible concepts, I would also like to say that I have found that Berlioz fits the "deepest spiritual feeling, intensity, broadest emotional power and highest inspirational levels" category to a tee. I have notic...
- Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:09 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 30982
Re: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
We must not forget that the language of popular music is "the word" ("lyrics"). A neighbor of ours was telling me about this new "album" he bought (I forgot what group sings), but it suddenly occurred to me that pop-fans describe their music only in non-musical terms----they talk about the text, the...
- Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Bummer ...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10672
Re: Smetana box set
We have both Kubelik and Neumann doing all nine Smetana tone poems. Kubelik stresses more the lyrical approach, Neumann's interpretations tend to be more dramatic. Both are essential, IMHO, for a complete understanding of the great Czech Master's orchestral works.
Tschüß,
Jack
Tschüß,
Jack
- Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:47 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
We should make mention of which criteria are used when discussing any reasonable listing of "the greatest" anything. If one wishes to use qualities such as deepest spiritual feeling, intensity, broadest emotional power and highest inspirational levels then such masters as Handel, J.S. Bach, Mozart, ...
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:14 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Well, a musicologist such as yourself, Jack , we can trust to have the inside track on who the Ten Greatest Composers of All Time are. And naturally Schumann and Handel made it in the first draft. Cheers, ~Karl So right you are, Karl. Do you wish some source material on that....?! 8) Tschüß, Jack
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:51 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Bummer ...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10672
Re: Smetana box set
My Smetana preference is Vaclav Neumann, a VERY under-appreciated conductor. Alone, the early "Swedish" symphonic poems (esp. "Haakon Jarl" is worth getting: listen for the influence of Tschaikowsky's Romeo theme from "Romeo and Juliet"!!).
Tschüß,
Jack
Tschüß,
Jack
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:44 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
LOL Cheers, ~Karl Yep, and Handel, J.S. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner make it as well..... (P.S.: I just received the 2-disc recording of Dorati performing the four Tschaikowsky orchestral suites---absolutely marvelous music, wonderfully performed!!. I like No. 3 best---so far.) Tschüß, Jack
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:28 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What Is Your Mozart Top 10?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20738
Re: What Is Your Mozart Top 10?
Less dumb than most of the BBC's other poll results, but any list of Mozart's "top 10" works that doesn't include a single complete opera, doesn't measure up. Likewise a piano concerto. Indeed, I could fill all 10 slots with great Mozart piano concertos. Some critic, somewhere---stated that the pia...
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:24 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Interesting article. We all surely have our PERSONAL 10 list. Most would probably concur. It all boils down to what we like, but then even the masses would seem to concur. If I had to pick 10 composers of all time, but NOT keeping them in any particular numerical sequence, it would go like this: JS...
- Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:30 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What Is Your Mozart Top 10?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20738
Re: What Is Your Mozart Top 10?
Likewise a piano concerto.John F wrote:Less dumb than most of the BBC's other poll results, but any list of Mozart's "top 10" works that doesn't include a single complete opera, doesn't measure up.
Tschüß,
Jack
- Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:01 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: 12 Top Piano Composers
- Replies: 30
- Views: 13432
Re: 12 Top Piano Composers
Hmm. Simple. Extract Brahms----insert Chopin.karlhenning wrote:Ray! I cannot believe that Chopin is not in the Top Five! : )
Cheers,
~Karl
Tschüß,
Jack
- Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:04 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
- Replies: 56
- Views: 34848
Re: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
Well, gosh Karl----I'm awfully sorry if there are other opinions from great 20th-century composers that don't agree with yours. Ad hominem and specious, Jack . This is not about who agrees with me; it is about the facts. You must consider, Jack , whether you are interested in the facts, or only wit...
- Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:35 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Great composers dealing with pressure
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6688
Re: Great composers dealing with pressure
Schumann left a good deal of musings and other writings behind so that we can form a pretty good picture of the stress which he created for himself to get into the composing "mood". He was one of those masters who drove themselves into an intensive "high" or creative heat. Well----whatever works.......
- Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:16 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
- Replies: 56
- Views: 34848
Re: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
Well, gosh Karl----I'm awfully sorry if there are other opinions from great 20th-century composers that don't agree with yours. And yes, I can hum or whistle quite a bit from various Hindemith, Bartok, Stravinsky (etc.) works, since their music is (largely) tonal. There is also much music by Henze t...
- Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:34 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
- Replies: 56
- Views: 34848
Re: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
As Schostakowitsch, Britten and Hindemith as well as other great composers said almost fifty years ago, 12-tone composers can't write a whistleable tune that one can remember when exiting the concert hall. All three of them said that? Extraordinary! :wink: There is no precedent for continuous appre...
- Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:06 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
- Replies: 56
- Views: 34848
Re: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
Contemporary "classical" music has totally lost its public. As Schostakowitsch, Britten and Hindemith as well as other great composers said almost fifty years ago, 12-tone composers can't write a whistleable tune that one can remember when exiting the concert hall. While I enjoy an occasion atonal w...
- Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:27 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
....and now, Ladies and Gentlemen, by (near) popular demand for our anti-Austro-German delegation out there (wherever it is!), here is THEIR chronological listing of the TOP TEN: 1. Purcell 2. Vivaldi 3. Cherubini 4. Berlioz 5. Chopin 6. Verdi 7. Tschaikowsky 8. Dvorak 9. Sibelius 10. Prokofiev "The...
- Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:05 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
I know, I know Jack, but I did "qualify" my responses by noting the comment in red, below. I did that to avoid a "placement" since all of those I listed would probably be a Numero Uno! :D Interesting article. We all surely have our PERSONAL 10 list. Most would probably concur. It all boils down to ...
- Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:48 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Composer Anniversaries 2011?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 24105
Re: Composer Anniversaries 2011?
A great friend of mine out on the west coast (who is both a huge Liszt fan, and alive to the unevenness of his oeuvre ) accumulated a few of those Hyperion discs on initial release. The value is in having fresh recordings of so much which is rare; the occasional downside is, that (apart from questi...
- Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:17 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Okay, I saw Wagner posted by RebLem......!
Tschüß,
Jack
Tschüß,
Jack
- Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:15 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Interesting article. We all surely have our PERSONAL 10 list. Most would probably concur. It all boils down to what we like, but then even the masses would seem to concur. If I had to pick 10 composers of all time, but NOT keeping them in any particular numerical sequence, it would go like this: JS...
- Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:11 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Isn't this funny? I don't believe Wagner has been mentioned even ONCE here....or did I miss something...?!
Tschüß,
Jack
Tschüß,
Jack
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
If its only going to be 10, here's mine listed in chronological order by date of death: J.S. Bach W.A. Mozart F.J. Haydn L.V. Beethoven R. Schumann J. Brahms A. Dvorak S. Prokofiev I. Stravinsky D. Shostakovich That's a pretty good list, but I would exchange Dvorak and Shostakowitsch for Handel and...
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
- Replies: 76
- Views: 35395
Re: Top 10 Composers Of All Time-NY Times Wants To Know
Still, does Handel make the cut for the Top 10? I don’t know. I think he should pay a price for churning out all those da capo arias. I seldom say this when reading Tommasini, but this earns the remark: I love it! Cheers, ~Karl So what does one expect from 1735? Through-composed operas with leitmot...
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:27 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
- Replies: 4710
- Views: 2499005
Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Yep, but instead of a cane Hans has a "magic wand" (baton!).....Chalkperson wrote:I always thought that "Kna" looked like Charlie Chaplin in the photo above...
Tschüß,
Jack
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:13 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 30982
Re: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
For us, the one big "turn-off" for pop is its pervasiveness. Everywhere you go----shopping for food, eating out (even in a good restaurant!), watching t.v., visiting a beer-fest, etc.----there it is, and oftentimes way too loud! If a person wishes to avoid classical music it's no problem; but no one...
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:00 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
- Replies: 46
- Views: 47902
Re: Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
I assume this will be this group's future favourite recording: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//6473632.htm Sir Simon Rattle's new Mahler 2 with the Berliner philharmoniker Tore F Steenslid Sotra, Norway http://www.steenslid.com Aah, I can already hear Chalkie's cheers! :lol: Tschüß, Jack
- Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:38 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 30982
Re: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
Classical Music does not render instant gratification to the listener and requires an attention span greater than three minutes and that is why Classical Music is considered - quite correctly - an elitist pursuit, it does not and never will have mass appeal, it requires effort. Very succinctly put ...
- Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:52 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Vincent d'Indy...
- Replies: 15
- Views: 15768
Re: Vincent d'Indy...
Actually, I think Vincent d'Indy is no different from Haydn and Mozart: producing good formatted music, sound sounds, excellent symmetry and great structural architecture, everything falling into place as it should. Could expectations for the early 20th century be different from expectations for th...
- Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:19 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 30982
Re: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
Classical Music does not render instant gratification to the listener and requires an attention span greater than three minutes and that is why Classical Music is considered - quite correctly - an elitist pursuit, it does not and never will have mass appeal, it requires effort. Very succinctly put ...
- Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:07 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Best "First" symphonies
- Replies: 69
- Views: 49496
Re: Best "First" symphonies
Which Beethoven 1 is best? Toscanini/NBC Reiner/CSO Abbado/BPO IMNSHO, Solti is definitely best in both the first two symphonies, but you should be warned he does have a controversial POV of them. He doesn't see them as mere study symphonies written as practice before the Eroica; he sees them as fu...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:34 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 30982
Re: Why Do So Many People Think Classical Music Is Elitist?
No, you are right----Sandow is flat wrong. What does he expect serious musicians to do?! Should they toss out all the atonal works of the last 100 years? Should they re-write Alban Berg and Hans Werner Henze so they sound like James Last and his orchestra?! Art music can only maintain its unique pos...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:21 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
- Replies: 46
- Views: 47902
Re: Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
Klemperer Philharmonia EMI and Bernstein NYP Sony are the ones I turn to the most, with the Walter a sentimental favorite. I have always heard that the Mehta 2nd was one of his better recordings, but I do not think I have ever heard it. I know those by Walter, Bernstein, Klemperer, Solti and lots o...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:11 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"
- Replies: 48
- Views: 20529
Re: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"
I have not listened to the Radio for at least 35 years... 99.8% of the time I listen to the radio, I'm in the car. Cheers, ~Karl Same here. Or we hear the SWR2 Konzert zum Mittag----during lunch/dinnertime....provided the pieces they play do not contain more digestive sounds than that which we need...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:52 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
- Replies: 46
- Views: 47902
Mahler's Second----best recording....?!
My wife gave me for Christmas Zubin Mehta's 1974 recording with the Vienna Phil.---and I am duly impressed! For me, it even beats out the Solti, which is very fine indeed. Mehta doesn't drag the first mvt (21 min.), rather respects the "Allegro maestoso" marking. He brings out the dramatic, poetic a...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:50 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Best "First" symphonies
- Replies: 69
- Views: 49496
Re: Best "First" symphonies
Two of the very finest "First Symphonies" which are little-known are those of Robert Volkmann in D Minor, op. 44 and Hermann Goetz in F Major, op. 9.
Both should be in the standard repertoire.
Tschüß,
Jack
Both should be in the standard repertoire.
Tschüß,
Jack
- Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:12 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
- Replies: 133
- Views: 44062
Re: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
nothing is worse in my book than elitism, What's the matter with elitism? I think it's a good thing, especially in a field like music, which is so difficult to master that only a few people do outstanding work in it. I think it only fit to celebrate those elite few. My answer has nothing to do with...
- Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:45 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
- Replies: 133
- Views: 44062
Re: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
nothing is worse in my book than elitism, What's the matter with elitism? I think it's a good thing, especially in a field like music, which is so difficult to master that only a few people do outstanding work in it. I think it only fit to celebrate those elite few. My answer has nothing to do with...
- Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
- Replies: 133
- Views: 44062
Re: Is Classical Music Superior To Other Kinds Of Music?
It's all just Music, be it Baroque or Reggae...it makes people think, it makes them happy, and, it can make them sad, no reason to consider one Genre better than the other IMHO...even the word 'Superior' has a pretentious ring about it... :wink: So, Chalkie---for you nothing is "superior" or "bette...
- Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:34 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Schumann 200
- Replies: 56
- Views: 49182
Re: Schumann 200
That [Orfeo set] is one of the most extraordinary multi-disc sets of DFD you will ever have. It is well recorded and features the legendary Gerald Moore at the piano. The Moore/Fischer-Dieskau lieder duo was probably the finest that has ever lived since recordings began. Other than Fischer-Dieskau ...
- Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:30 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Franz Liszt Vs Parrot
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6956
Re: Franz Liszt Vs Parrot
As a teenager I had a parakeet who ALWAYS chirped (not squawked!) when I put Wagner's "Der fliegende Holländer" Overture on. To other composers he was pretty much mute.
Tschüß,
Jack
Tschüß,
Jack
- Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
- Replies: 21
- Views: 19876
Re: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
Of course, if the Schumann threads irritate you too much you really don't have to read them..... :lol: But, if I did that I would have nothing to ridicule...luckily, Le Rat only recorded the Piano Concerto and that was twenty years ago, fortunately he did not record the Symphonies, and that is abou...
- Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:47 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
- Replies: 21
- Views: 19876
Re: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
Of course, if the Schumann threads irritate you too much you really don't have to read them..... :lol: But, if I did that I would have nothing to ridicule...luckily, Le Rat only recorded the Piano Concerto and that was twenty years ago, fortunately he did not record the Symphonies, and that is abou...
- Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:57 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Best "First" symphonies
- Replies: 69
- Views: 49496
Re: Best "First" symphonies
Thank you----you just reminded me that I forgot ELGAR'S FIRST. It's one of the major late-Romantic masterpieces.absinthe wrote:Walton's.
Tschüß,
Jack
- Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:28 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Schumann 200
- Replies: 56
- Views: 49182
Re: Schumann 200
Schumann: I have just introduced myself to his works for Cello Jared, can I ask what disc/s you are using to carry out this endeavour :?: :) try this little delight, Darren: http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/fandango68/Early%20Romantic/CelloGastinel.jpg I don't know that one, Jared....but if ...
- Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:16 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
- Replies: 21
- Views: 19876
Re: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
Speaking of Schumann, as his year winds down... [/size] Yippee...it seemed more like a decade than a year... Well then----2011 will be a joyous continuation of reviewing the new Schumann recordings! So you can look forward to perhaps even more postings about his music. Of course, if the Schumann th...
- Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:05 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Best "First" symphonies
- Replies: 69
- Views: 49496
Re: Best "First" symphonies
Amazing---this thread is just BEGGING for it. So here it is: Schumann's First, a truly original and highly expressive first. Also, those single ones of Bizet, Franck, Dukas, etc. DO qualify for "firsts", since that's what they really are....regardless of the fact that they stand alone in their compo...
- Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:59 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Which complete Brahms chamber music set should I get?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10794
Re: Which complete Brahms chamber music set should I get?
I would also recommend that Brilliant Classics recording of Brahms' Piano Quartets as well as their Clarinet Quintet, Clarinet Trio and clarinet sonatas. The double-disc offer from NAXOS of the piano trios 1-3 and the Trio in A Major with the Vienna Piano Trio is also a great bargain. I enjoy them. ...
- Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:52 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
- Replies: 21
- Views: 19876
Re: NY Times Favorite Schumann Recordings
Older recordings of just about every master are at least as fine as the newer ones. Schumann is no different. My PERSONAL favorites (for what they're worth) are: Symphonies: Levine (except for the finale of the Fourth!), Muti and Sawalisch for complete sets. I recently got Inbal's First and Third (P...
- Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:18 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: MPR's latest abuse of music: ruining Christmas
- Replies: 27
- Views: 12060
Re: MPR's latest abuse of music: ruining Christmas
German radio stations used to play (25 years ago!) primarily the church hymns and German "caroles" (like "O, Tannenbaum"), now they've become Americanized and play both English and American Christmas songs as well (e.g., "Jingle Bells" and "Frosty the Snowman"). Fortunately, they don't overdo it----...