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by Marc
Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"
Replies: 36
Views: 7022

Re: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"

(Harnoncourt in Amsterdam 1975, whilst repeating the opening chorus of Bach's SMP: "You know Vater Strauss' Radetzky Marsch ? Just play it like that." :mrgreen:) Marc means "rehearsing" (French répéter) in case anyone was wondering. I mean, I just posted about Karl Richter actually performing the S...
by Marc
Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"
Replies: 36
Views: 7022

Re: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"

Though the Boyd Neel Orchestra was known outside England for its recordings of 18th century music, particularly Handel, they were not a specialized ensemble, playing music for string orchestra and chamber orchestra from all periods; they gave the premiere of Britten's Serenade for Tenor, Horn and S...
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 6953

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

Bradley Lehman in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9IqD_04G0s Laurence Dreyfus info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Dreyfus Peter Williams is mostly known because of his Bach organ 'bible': http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/music/seventeenth-century-music/organ-music-j-s-ba...
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.
Replies: 23
Views: 4753

Re: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.

Quite interesting. Here is an interview .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQIt3-6u4ts&noredirect=1 She does mention that she had never had singing lessons but did receive a little coaching from her parents. She recognized that she needs to work on her breath control. Quite an interesting interview ...
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.
Replies: 23
Views: 4753

Re: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.

I put this on Facebook in case Henry Slofstra gets there before he gets here. I forgive her for breathing between syllables and for her horrid pronunciation. Forgiveness to her vocal teacher for letting her sing such a huge cliché comes a little harder. Oh well, at least it was not Panis Angelicus....
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 6953

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

'm not doubting your scholarship but have not heard that before. [....] Plz, don't make me blush. I'm not a scholar. My 'knowledge' as a layman is only based on my personal interest in Bach. He's by far my fave composer. Articles/books on the matter of harpsichord in Bach/baroque church music were ...
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.
Replies: 23
Views: 4753

Re: Holland's Got Talent. Little Amira W.

I put this on Facebook in case Henry Slofstra gets there before he gets here. I forgive her for breathing between syllables and for her horrid pronunciation. Forgiveness to her vocal teacher for letting her sing such a huge cliché comes a little harder. Oh well, at least it was not Panis Angelicus....
by Marc
Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 6953

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

Considering the harpsichord in Bach's church music: personally, I prefer the organ. Despite that, there are surviving manuscripts and copies of Bach's church cantatas which include specified harpsichord parts, especially in the late Leipzig years. This also goes for the final version of the Johannes...
by Marc
Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 6953

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

Only 1 volume to go then, for yours truly. :) I'm very happy with this series, even though I find the Leonhardt/Harnoncourt integral more expressive. Suzuki seems to have grown more mellow in his approach during the years. His first recordings had more 'bite'. Philippe Herreweghe still remains my fa...
by Marc
Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Stop Forcing Your Kids to Learn a Musical Instrument
Replies: 41
Views: 3481

Re: Stop Forcing Your Kids to Learn a Musical Instrument

I was 'forced' to go to music lessons, learned to play the recorder, wanted to play the organ, was 'forced' to learn the piano, I assume someone told you that you have to learn the piano before you can learn the organ. :) Yes, almost everybody did. ;) And I believed them. But you know what? After s...
by Marc
Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Stop Forcing Your Kids to Learn a Musical Instrument
Replies: 41
Views: 3481

Re: Stop Forcing Your Kids to Learn a Musical Instrument

I was 'forced' to go to music lessons, learned to play the recorder, wanted to play the organ, was 'forced' to learn the piano, was a very moderate pupil, quit after 10 years, was also 'forced' to listen to Bach's choral works during my teen years, loved it besides Beatles, Abba, Queen, Sex Pistols,...
by Marc
Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 5491

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

It really isn't as simple as that. What could Penzel's purpose have been for falsifying Bach? As you say, he's considered one of Bach's most reliable copyists. But whether or not the ossia for horn is authentic, the trumpet version certainly is, and it's better. That's good enough for me. Yes, I pr...
by Marc
Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 5491

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

There’s more than a suggestion, Freeman-Attwood says, that the Brandenburg 2 concertante group might originally have consisted of violin, recorder, oboe – and horn rather than trumpet. This is old news. Thurston Dart argued for it generations ago and prepared a performing edition recorded by the Ac...
by Marc
Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach Guild Big Box MP3 sets at Amazon: $0.99
Replies: 9
Views: 2991

Re: Bach Guild Big Box MP3 sets at Amazon: $0.99

How that particular number came to be chosen, I've no idea. And WBAI has changed beyond recognition since then. Seeing a Bach Guild Big Bach Set and Bigger Bach Set, I was sure one of the must include this recording of this cantata. Neither does. Pity. This duetto (2nd movement of BWV 78) is awesom...
by Marc
Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: For Palm Sunday, your hymn of the day
Replies: 9
Views: 1993

Re: For Palm Sunday, your hymn of the day

I have a weak spot for the Gloria laus et honor tibi sit by Christopher Tye (1498-1573). Beautiful Renaissance music, based on the original Gregorian hymn. I'm not familiar with that motet, and unfortunately it's not on YouTube, so thanks for the suggestion. The tune to which the English translatio...
by Marc
Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: For Palm Sunday, your hymn of the day
Replies: 9
Views: 1993

Re: For Palm Sunday, your hymn of the day

I have a weak spot for the Gloria laus et honor tibi sit by Christopher Tye (1498-1573). Beautiful Renaissance music, based on the original Gregorian hymn.

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http://www.amazon.com/Music-Christopher ... 0000263KE/
by Marc
Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:11 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The new Pope thread: Reblem called it correctly
Replies: 49
Views: 5261

Re: The new Pope thread: Reblem called it correctly

In contrast to the last few conclaves, the cardinal got it over with in quite a hurry (because he was not happy with the choice??). Or he was asked by Bergoglio to not make a show of the announcement and just read it from the book. Felici read exactly the same (only Latin) lines in 1978 (both times...
by Marc
Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco
Replies: 40
Views: 6812

Re: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco

[....] What I love of the Orchestra of the XVIII Century is not what worked for 18 Century folk, but what works for me, right now, in 2013, and so I can confidently say that: Brüggen´s is the best Haydn ever, as simple as that. ( Whispering: ) I also like Hickox .... or so it seems. .....and I like...
by Marc
Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco
Replies: 40
Views: 6812

Re: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco

josé echenique wrote:[....] What I love of the Orchestra of the XVIII Century is not what worked for 18 Century folk, but what works for me, right now, in 2013, and so I can confidently say that:

Brüggen´s is the best Haydn ever, as simple as that.
(Whispering:) I also like Hickox .... or so it seems.
by Marc
Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cesar Franck: has his star faded?
Replies: 15
Views: 2596

Re: Cesar Franck: has his star faded?

jbuck, points taken, but plz forgive me if I sometimes enjoy mr. Franck's organ works. (Among other stuff from his output.) I deliberately say 'sometimes' because I am germanophile too and I prefer music from the 18th century (and earlier) to the romantics. It's a label I feel comfortable with, beca...
by Marc
Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco
Replies: 40
Views: 6812

Re: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco

Awful, hideous: which is, of course, no Surprise. Where on earth are you coming from? If you think that this excellent performance is awful and hideous. then please explain how it was possible in the 18th century for great composers to have satisfactory renditions of their compositions at all. Rela...
by Marc
Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco
Replies: 40
Views: 6812

Re: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco

Another piece of Christopher Hogwash that I have heard from many supporters of HIP is that "we can play these instruments full out without overwhelming the acoustic or the piece, which you can't do on modern instruments." The real problem is that they do not play the period instruments "full out," ...
by Marc
Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cesar Franck: has his star faded?
Replies: 15
Views: 2596

Re: Cesar Franck: has his star faded?

jbuck919 wrote:[....] Instead he wrote a tiny handful of masterpieces and a lot of junk. And I have to tell you that I count most of the organ music among the junk. [....]
It's an opinion.

Anyway, Franck's organ works are still regular and beloved guests at organ recitals in this part of the world.
by Marc
Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco
Replies: 40
Views: 6812

Re: Another Beethoven Period Instruments Fiasco

I had the pleasure to listen to F. Brüggen (as conductor and once also on the recorder in a 18th century serenades & divertimenti concert) since the eighties, and I've always left the building very satisfied. His Haydn is great, his Mozart is great, his first Beethoven cycle (Philips/OOP) was alread...
by Marc
Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Let´s post our favourite recordings of 2012
Replies: 58
Views: 8691

Re: Let´s post our favourite recordings of 2012

Favourite new issue : http://i46.tinypic.com/35ano06.jpg Gwendolyn Toth playing German baroque on the beautiful Arp Schnitger organ in Noordbroek, NL. http://www.artekearlymusic.org/arp-schnitger.html Favourite reissue : Schubert symphonies by Anima Eterna and Jos van Immerseel. http://i47.tinypic....
by Marc
Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?
Replies: 95
Views: 13121

Re: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?

Don't get me wrong: I've always appreciated Beet, but not in the same way as I f.i. adore Bach. But there's a special click with his symphonies, I admit. The Cluytens set has been in the back of my (wanna purchase) mind for years .... but entering cd shops and websites always led to .... other purc...
by Marc
Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas
Replies: 21
Views: 5101

Re: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas

Got my first 'touch' of these works with Josef Suk and Zuzana Ruzickova on a Supraphon vinyl recording, and immediately fell in love with these compositions. Dunno if this particular issue was ever re-released on cd. There's an Erato set by the same instrumentalists which isn't the same (and less im...
by Marc
Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How Did You Discover BAROQUE Beyond JSB and GFH?
Replies: 36
Views: 3894

Re: How Did You Discover BAROQUE Beyond JSB and GFH?

As a child I played the piano, and I fell in love with a.o. Bach and Purcell's music. In church I also loved to hear the organ. Then, as a teenager, I 'discovered', thanks to my parents who sang in an oratorio choir, the passions of Bach and Händel's Messiah . Since then I simply adore baroque and e...
by Marc
Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Early Baroque
Replies: 35
Views: 5196

Re: The Early Baroque

[....] In fact, I played Sweelinck just this morning. It was this piece, which I first played when I was sharing the duties of chapel organist at Princeton. Got a comment from one of the others on the roster about how boring it was. Oh well, I never get bored playing such things, and we can think o...
by Marc
Fri May 18, 2012 12:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is dead
Replies: 39
Views: 12895

Re: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is dead

In my humble opinion, F-D was the greatest baritone of the second half of the 20th century. [....] His voice is one the most familiar and easily recognizable voices of all great singers. [....] His voice was easy recognizable and so were his initials: F-D , like you wrote it, was sufficient. Every ...
by Marc
Fri May 18, 2012 9:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is dead
Replies: 39
Views: 12895

Re: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is dead

A beautiful voice, combined with a complete dedication to the art of music (and speech!): rest in peace, Herr Fischer-Dieskau!
by Marc
Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Important for singers to make eye contact with the audience?
Replies: 9
Views: 1578

Re: Important for singers to make eye contact with the audie

From personal experience I can testify there's nothing wrong with Carolyn Sampson making eye contact.

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by Marc
Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: No sympathy for the creative class
Replies: 7
Views: 1253

Re: No sympathy for the creative class

In 'my' country, the Netherlands, the idea that anything cultural and artistic is to be considered as a 'left-wing hobby' is now the dominant belief. Therefore subsidies have been significantly reduced. As a former spokesman of a very popular populist political party told a furious Jaap van Zweden (...
by Marc
Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Taking Stock: Bach´s St. Matthew´s Passion
Replies: 10
Views: 2183

Re: Taking Stock: Bach´s St. Matthew´s Passion

Definitely not my fave (Corboz does a better job in the Chrismas Oratorio IMO), but Equiluz is great!
by Marc
Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Taking Stock: Bach´s St. Matthew´s Passion
Replies: 10
Views: 2183

Re: Taking Stock: Bach´s St. Matthew´s Passion

I like all 3 Harnoncourt recordings, Herreweghe 1, Leonhardt (maybe the most well-balanced and 'Protestant'), Kuijken (less perfect yet far more 'credible' than McCreesh IMO), Koopman 2 .... and I have a very weak spot for this one: http://i39.tinypic.com/29lbh90.jpg Hermann Max, die Rheinische Kant...
by Marc
Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm
Replies: 11
Views: 3585

Re: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm

[....] (Klemperer was always good at helping people with a slow tempo. :) ) Yes (adding to this off-topic intermezzo discussion :)), Klemperer had his way with tempi. But sometimes it worked very well. Another example IMO is one of his final recordings: Mozart's Così fan tutte . In fact, his more d...
by Marc
Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm
Replies: 11
Views: 3585

Re: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm

[....] (Klemperer was always good at helping people with a slow tempo. :) ) Yes (adding to this off-topic intermezzo discussion :)), Klemperer had his way with tempi. But sometimes it worked very well. Another example IMO is one of his final recordings: Mozart's Così fan tutte . In fact, his more d...
by Marc
Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm
Replies: 11
Views: 3585

Re: Cristina Deutekom, Dutch soprano ... hmmm

Thanks for the Youtube link, jbuck919. This 'movie performance' by Deutekom is indeed much better than her singing in Solti's first recording of Die Zauberflöte ! No yodeling! But I must admit I still prefer the more expressive young Lucia Popp, who, btw, performed this role on disc in Klemperer's n...
by Marc
Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: what is "momentum"?
Replies: 20
Views: 4934

Re: what is "momentum"?

The metaphor is extremely common. It's used in politics, in sports, in all kinds of things, to indicate a trend that looks hard to stop. Of course the so-called momentum of, say, the New York Yankees last season wasn't literally "the product of velocity and mass." It's a metaphor. But it expresses ...
by Marc
Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your favourite climaxes?
Replies: 35
Views: 4284

Re: Your favourite climaxes?

I always enjoy the more 'modest' climaxes of J.S. Bach, like the fugue of the 'Dorian' D-minor Toccata BWV 538, the closing bars of organ chorales like BWV 671 (Kyrie, Gott, heiliger Geist) and 665 (Jesus Christus, unser Heiland), not to mention the effect of the final chorale (Ach Herr, laß dein li...
by Marc
Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Which complete Mozart piano concertos?
Replies: 32
Views: 25962

Re: Which complete Mozart piano concertos?

As has been said, get all the Haskil and Curzon you can. But don't fail, if you can afford it, to get Haebler: http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-Complete/dp/B00000410O (might be cheaper from Japan). Looks like the 1991 Complete Mozart Edition issue by Philips, which is mainly Brendel. On...
by Marc
Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Gustav Leonhardt RIP
Replies: 10
Views: 4650

Re: Gustav Leonhardt RIP

I will miss his contributions to the wonderful world of music.
But thankfully there are still many recordings available.

May he rest in peace.
by Marc
Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I discovered tenor Peter Seiffert!!!
Replies: 6
Views: 1382

Re: I discovered tenor Peter Seiffert!!!

Heard him first time in Wagner's Fliegende Holländer (Naxos) and saw (and heard) him perform on telly in a festive Bernstein concert with a.o. his lovely first wife Lucia Popp, sadly mourned since 1993 .... how time flies. Here's Popp with Seiffert in Strauss' Arabella A.D. 1988: nA6-phGHDCs Yes, I ...
by Marc
Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Handel's Messiah
Replies: 25
Views: 8253

Re: Handel's Messiah

Not easy to pick my personal choices, but this one by Colin Davis will always remain a steady favourite: http://i39.tinypic.com/bjhfte.jpg Of the HIP-recordings I would probably pick this one by Ton Koopman, even though William Christia and the earlier mentioned Trevor Pinnock have delivered some ni...
by Marc
Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:04 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ashkenazy's orchestration of Mussorgsky's Pictures
Replies: 27
Views: 10546

Re: Ashkenazy's orchestration of Mussorgsky's Pictures

Is this Ashkenazy's orchestration here? yq0rS2qSj28 The overall effect is not too much different from Ravel's. Of course the number of options in this movement is limited. It has to be tutti through most of it. There have to be bells and gongs. I rather miss the clarinets in the soft chorale bits, ...
by Marc
Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ashkenazy's orchestration of Mussorgsky's Pictures
Replies: 27
Views: 10546

Re: Ashkenazy's orchestration of Mussorgsky's Pictures

[....] Gorchakov's is my favorite of the alternates, but sadly only recorded on a hard to find Denon disc by Mazur. Do try to find a copy to hear what is probably, in my opinion, the best alternative to Ravel. This orchestration was also recorded by the Radio Symphony Orchestra of Krákow, conducted...
by Marc
Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Let it all hang out
Replies: 27
Views: 3153

Re: Let it all hang out

I wonder if anyone has seen Alex Verney-Elliott and Robert Newman (of "Mozart is a fraud" fame) together in the same room. Their argument styles are very similar. I stumbled upon this thread rather late, but, FWIW, my first thoughts were exactly the same. For a while even, I was convinced they were...
by Marc
Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: RIP Sena Jurinac - soprano
Replies: 7
Views: 1873

Re: RIP Sena Jurinac - soprano

Figueras, Jurinac .... what a sad week for celebrated soprano's.

I loved Jurinac's Donna Elvira.

May she rest in peace.