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by absinthe
Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:21 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Advice sought from all of you polymaths here
Replies: 17
Views: 2437

Re: Advice sought from all of you polymaths here

Not sure if anyone could advise anyone else of anything in this situation as personal circumstances come into it. I consider myself a businessman (businessperson in UK-speak). But when I was 13 I doubted I'd have any life at all with an unpredictably violent stepfather whose grave I can now piss on,...
by absinthe
Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Profundity in Music
Replies: 36
Views: 4623

Re: Profundity in Music

Good Lord. The needle on my bullsh-o-meter has hit the end stop... :lol: A pointless discussion really but nice for arm-chair chat. Not one of us can describe our experiences of profundity (which is why the Mysteries are the Mysteries) and we certainly can't describe our experience(s) of music. Ther...
by absinthe
Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Rite of Spring: 100th Anniversary
Replies: 76
Views: 10100

Re: The Rite of Spring: 100th Anniversary

I thought you wouldn't clarify your statement after my queries in my previous post. That's your style, ain'it? Make a categoric statement then ignore anyone who takes you to task over it. (Because you hadn't thought it through.) But you're a past master at being rude. I mean, look at your last para ...
by absinthe
Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Rite of Spring: 100th Anniversary
Replies: 76
Views: 10100

Re: The Rite of Spring: 100th Anniversary

What I want to read or hear is a discussion of the properties of contemporary music - it's form and structures, melody, harmonies.... OK, but to have a discussion (as opposed to a quarrel) you have to have knowledgable and experienced participants. My, my...some intelligent observation there. Peopl...
by absinthe
Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Mass in C Major
Replies: 8
Views: 1952

Re: Beethoven Mass in C Major

Hello again, Just popped on to view a PM but I wanted to add something here. I have never listened this work but it's one I hope will fall into the hands of a benevolent conductor sooner or later. Unfortunately Klemperer didn't record it - shame, he did an exemplary performance with the Op123 - but ...
by absinthe
Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:19 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

Yes, I have no quarrel with Sean. Nice guy, but perhaps a little sensitive? Note, Henry did not delete his comment, it is still there..Chalklyss Yup - apologies. I'll amend my message a bit Allegro, like. :o it is very unfortunate that both Lenny and Henry (UK Joke for Abs) did not grasp that I was...
by absinthe
Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:41 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

Yes, I have no quarrel with Sean. Nice guy, but perhaps a little sensitive? Why sensitive? He made a perfectly innocuous statement about a flautist and suddenly finds himself assailed by unease and "hoping that wasn't what it's about" and all he did was comment on his regard for this flautist. It's...
by absinthe
Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:08 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

It's a warning not to go to an American pub for which I thank you. Conviviality is the general tone of our UK pubs though when violence breaks out it can be quite spectacular. Location is important. S.E.London isn't good but the kind of pub to which music enthusiasts go is usually fun. Maybe when so...
by absinthe
Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:33 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

(musing); Christ, it's become quarrelling about quarrelling now. Is there no end to this pathetic confrontationalism- on a muisc site? Are there no collaborators left in the world? Is it a cultural thing? Is it like you can't get through an American movie without Americans on the same side whacking ...
by absinthe
Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:23 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

Just my view but Chalklyss was doing his best, given that he hasn't the privileges to lock or move posts. It can't be easy, having to watch like a hawk and simply persuade or reason with people with a few natural confronters around. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Even so, I came across this picture...
by absinthe
Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:23 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge
Replies: 80
Views: 5705

Re: DoAttractiveFemaleClassicalMusicPerformersHaveThe Edge

Here's a subject too controversial for the ChatterBox--are Album Covers for example exploiting a woman's looks over her ability--are women who are maybe not that attractive but with the best ability being discriminated against. Regards, Len I seem to remember an article years ago about how classica...
by absinthe
Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:08 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New principal flautist of Le Rat's BPO, and he's handsome!
Replies: 27
Views: 3162

Re: New principal flautist of Le Rat's BPO, and he's handsom

Why did the heist at the art museum fail ? They couldn't make the Van Gogh ! :lol: :lol: :lol: You might laugh but that happened just down the road from us at an ATM. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-19145349
by absinthe
Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: A public apology to Margaret Atwood
Replies: 7
Views: 1110

Re: A public apology to Margaret Atwood

Interesting. A recent thread "To All Posters Who Are USA Citizens:" questioned messianism creeping into politics. At least you have religious fundamentalism in politics*. I recall GW Bush calling upon God several times; preaching non-abortion and abstinence and States rising against that Darwinistic...
by absinthe
Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:07 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: U.S. or Israel to Bomb Iran ????
Replies: 30
Views: 4048

Re: U.S. or Israel to Bomb Iran ????

It looks like old Ezekiel got it about right, doesn't it? You have to remember that PM Netanyahu while conservative, knows that most non-religious Jews dont actually want this war. No matter what happens, Israel will cop a lot of damage - and if America steps in so, no doubt, will Russia. Has anyone...
by absinthe
Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: improving my life situation
Replies: 14
Views: 2499

Re: improving my life situation

Conditions and potential are different in the UK: there are usually musical activities going on within a few miles of where one lives. I’ve just returned from a summer school where I met a couple of people around your age in the composition class. Both had taken up orchestral/ensemble instruments in...
by absinthe
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Why Did the Symphony Became What It Is Today?
Replies: 26
Views: 2359

Re: Why Did the Symphony Became What It Is Today?

So I'm setting up the CMG forum software accordingly. Everybody else will still be able to see what you write, but I won't unless somebody quotes you, and I'll try not to respond to that. If you want to say something to me, you can send a private message using the pm button in the lower left of one...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Why Did the Symphony Became What It Is Today?
Replies: 26
Views: 2359

Re: Why Did the Symphony Became What It Is Today?

Tarantella, I've decided that it's probably best for both of us if I don't read and respond to your messages any more. Best for you because now you can be sure that whatever I say, it can't possibly be aimed at you; best for me because you keep yanking discussions off topic and making them about yo...
by absinthe
Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:12 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Food fight: Onward, Christian diners
Replies: 24
Views: 2594

Re: Food fight: Onward, Christian diners

karlhenning wrote: Well, I had no clue
~Karl
We know......
by absinthe
Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:12 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Climate change - what's the tipping point?
Replies: 13
Views: 1971

Re: Climate change - what's the tipping point?

And now Greenland is melting as never before....since 1889, at least.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
by absinthe
Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

This discussion has grown futile. But why? Before I joined this one I lurked on a few fora but the discussions here seem reasonably focused. In my Philestinian way I reckoned Mozart was good at music but it's all too pretty and formulaic. Not everyone here reckons he should be deified... in fact if...
by absinthe
Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:55 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Climate change - what's the tipping point?
Replies: 13
Views: 1971

Re: Climate change - what's the tipping point?

It seems inevitable. The UK is littered with record rainfalls, coldest this and that since records began. Until yesterday our summer temperatures have not hit 20C. Suddenly, yesterday, it upped to the 30s. The S.E. must have been the only place on earth where one can be flooded out while a hose-pipe...
by absinthe
Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

But do you think he could play in his head everything he put on the page? That is what I was surmising. He had a remarkable "ear". While looking at Allegri's Miserere mei I came upon a BBC4 broadcast about the work that noted that Mozart at age 14 transcribed the piece from memory after hearing it ...
by absinthe
Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

Your points are certainly taken on board. Alas, I must understand only from the listening, analysing and reading point of view - with some attempts at the piano sonatas, so I envy your skills. < And I gotta envy you--for me there is no playing, no reading of music, just listening and trying to enjo...
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

^^ That's right. No critic ever had a statue raised to him.....except Shaw and that's because the sculptor thought he was Brahms.

:mrgreen:
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 2877479

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Ok, that's got me hooked. I'll give the Cantata a spin before bed.
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by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can you REALLY live with one recording of a piece of music?
Replies: 15
Views: 2088

Re: Can you REALLY live with one recording of a piece of mus

Sometimes, you have not choice, because a) there's only one recording available ( eg Hermann Scherchen's string quartet op.1); b) there are very few recordings and one of them everybody admits it's the very best (Heifetz's Louis Gruenberg v.c.). Or sometime you got a recording of one work, but in y...
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 2877479

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mQiQzpTJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg A beautiful work well played. I have two DVDs of this ballet; my favourite is still Fonteyn. It's a little long but suited her gift absolutely, dreamy and so technically good that technicalities never enter my mind. The Royal Balle...
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

diegobueno wrote:
Tarantella wrote:What: and be a 'pretended girl gardener' or something? Cheers, Tarantella (weeding)
:) Even I think that's witty.
Aww... uh...are you unwell?
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

Tarantella wrote:I THINK, therefore I AM.

Yep; looks like it!
Hah! And I thought good-old Des Carties said "I DRINK, therefore I am"

:mrgreen:
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

The most virulent arguments are often about the avant-garde, from my experience. It's good for people to hold passionate opinions because good discussion/argument often reveals that they are THINKING listeners of serious music, and when they defend a position they often reveal quite a depth of know...
by absinthe
Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

Now if you're trying to set me and Garrett against each other on the basis of compositions, I'll not hear of it. Garrett is a fine composer and he's got a great career ahead of him. He's got his career act together like I never will, and he's got all sorts of amazing commissions coming his way. I s...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

A superb, gifted performer who came from a family of hornplayers. I recently bought a second CD of his playing to exceed the boundary of the Mozart Concertos I treasure.
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

Quite. But he came up with one good suggestion. I might indeed try to rewrite that Requiem with a bicycle pump part. No worse than Hoffnung rewriting a Leopold Mozart Concerto for Hose-pipe and Strings. Dennis Brain on the hosepipe. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hoffnung-Music-Festival-Concert-1956/dp/B00...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

I find all of those things there. Keep looking. It's clear from the comments of some people here that Mozart is very very difficult to understand. There you go again. The CMG highhorse is in full gear! -G And what the hell makes you think you're the only one who has the right to make pronouncements...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:21 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Terrible Batman Movie Tragedy
Replies: 30
Views: 5492

Re: The Terrible Batman Movie Tragedy

This horrific story speaks once again about the American gun culture and the obsession most people in this country have for firearms. The ease that this nutcase had in legally obtaining automatic weapons and the ammunition sufficient to slaughter scores of innocents should, but course won't undersc...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Singer with swastika tattoo withdraws from Bayreuth Festival
Replies: 17
Views: 2832

Re: Singer with swastika tattoo withdraws from Bayreuth Fest

Sad to say, the German gov has problems on its hands. The far right is emerging as it has in France, Austria and Denmark. A documentary a couple of days ago showed some demonstrations arranged with considerable stealth. Not absolutely right for the music board but pertinent. http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

diegobueno wrote:It's clear from the comments of some people here that Mozart is very very difficult to understand.
Do you mean the person or the music? If the music, how does one understand a piece or pieces of music?
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

It's the very "purity", "perfection" and "beauty" of Mozart that has most caused me to shut off. I don't want my music to be merely these things - it has to be challenging, thought-provoking, disturbing, complex, moving, introspective, serene, questioning, searching, yearning, dynamic, forward-look...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:25 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Climate change - what's the tipping point?
Replies: 13
Views: 1971

Re: Climate change - what's the tipping point?

My only gripe with this article is that "climate systems" as he calls them, aren't closed systems but functionally related to every aspect of the ecology including the entire climate (which he seems to like to dvide into other systems, though they are subsystems). It might be convenient for study to...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

What particular "aspects of the human condition" does he mean? Though he doesn't say so directly, he appears to be talking about those aspects of the human condition having to do with emotion. Does he mean that music should address any and all emotions? But music is not capable of this. It may "add...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers
Replies: 236
Views: 30778

Re: Arnold Rosner: Mozart most overrated of all composers

Trouble is, Mozart was showcased as a celeb doing circuit from a very early age. He probably had nice upper-class ladies gazing in awe upon him through their lorgnettes. He wrote pop music for the elite, the concert-goers and drawing room attendees who had to attend as a social duty if they wanted t...
by absinthe
Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BBC's Through the Night
Replies: 8
Views: 1666

Re: BBC's Through the Night

When I'm about in the UK I sometimes record the whole night. Problem is isolating the target works to save to some medium. Sometimes I just play the night's program back during the day as background music until my attention is grabbed by something. The BBC quite often puts on obscure items impossibl...
by absinthe
Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...
Replies: 21
Views: 3201

Re: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...

Then that might provide an answer - if Schoenberg was tinkering with traditional formal and tonal music his treatment is likely to lead to something strange.

That Dahlhaus guy just seems to be playing with words.
by absinthe
Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...
Replies: 21
Views: 3201

Re: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...

In that case it's is because Stravinsky and Bartok are basically tonal composers. Stravinsky is clearly tonal if supplemented by many dissonances. The Rite of Spring is mainly modal. Bartok came up with exotic sounds but kept to the old rules. His string quartets illustrate this. His modulations may...
by absinthe
Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...
Replies: 21
Views: 3201

Re: Herr JBUCK Has Told Me That Herr Schonberg ...

Indeed. And when asked how easy Word for Windows was for a writer, the rep said, "It's crammed full of best-sellers. It's up to you to draw them out." I think that one-liner is a perfectly good definition. At first I wondered if it the word 'organised' should be inserted somewhere but, nope. Perhaps...
by absinthe
Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sudden interest in Gustav Holst's music ...
Replies: 6
Views: 1223

Re: Sudden interest in Gustav Holst's music ...

It can't be bad if there's a general surge of interest. Much music has been about for a time, at least 5 CDs were issued by Lyrita (taken from several LPs extending back to the 1960s). Sound is very good as always. My favourite: http://media.mdt.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab3352...