Mozart piano sonatas Box question

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:28 am

CharmNewton wrote:When Gould made his Consorte of Musick album in 1971, there was very little of Gibbons or Byrd's keyboard music available on record.
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I mean, what a revolting idea for an EM fan to contemplate.
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Post by val » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:43 am

I don't know if anyone has already mentioned it, but the recent version of the complete Sonatas by Leon McCawley is very beautiful, reminding me of the style and phrasing of Haskil.
I didn't know this young pianist, but this set is one of the best I ever heard.

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Post by AndrewG » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:41 am

Another excellent box candidate for Mozart Sonatas is that one played by Christian Zacharias. I do not own this set but I have heard quite a few CDs from this set. I really like what I heard.
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Post by knotslip » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:35 am

Thanks for all of these great recommendations...I didn't realize there were so many sonata cycles done for these sonatas. It makes it difficult to make a decision, but i will have to bite the bullet soon and just order something. I'm leaning towards Wurtz but still reading reviews on others at this time.

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Post by AndrewG » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:23 am

knots,

Go for the Wurtz set. I have it and like it quite a bit. The only slight drawback is it sounds a tiny winy too much resonance to my ears. My ears are, as expected, far less trained and experienced vs those on this board.
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Post by Cyril Ignatius » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:34 pm

I don't have any complete box set of the Mozart sonatas, but will share what I am able. Having posed the question on this forum a number of months ago as to the great Mozart pianists, and have picked up numerous recordings along the way, it is clear that Uchida is one of the great Mozart (and Schubert) pianists, so you will do well there. Alfred Brendel is another great Mozart player, who any fan of the sonatas should have. I don't think he has a box set, but what he has is superb.

Amil Gilels is another. And then there is Sviatoslov Richter who did some very powerful recordings of several of the sonatas.

And yes, De Larrocha is another.
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Post by CharmNewton » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:05 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
CharmNewton wrote:When Gould made his Consorte of Musick album in 1971, there was very little of Gibbons or Byrd's keyboard music available on record.
Gag

I mean, what a revolting idea for an EM fan to contemplate.
Well in spite of Gould's lovely disc (Gibbons was his favorite composer--I'll take him at his word), recordings of Gibbons keyboard music are still pretty rare, but he wasn't prolific either.

I don't know if Gould ever played a virginal (he did record Handel on a harpsichord--oops, I can hear you gagging again :) ), but I'd certainly like to hear how he sounded playing one.

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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:15 pm

CharmNewton wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
slofstra wrote:For Orlando Gibbons, you could start with Gould.
You could, but I would start with Christopher Hogwood actually...
I didn't know that Hogwood has recorded Gibbons, but I see this is a recent disc. I have his 4 LP set of William Byrd's Lady Neville's Book.

When Gould made his Consorte of Musick album in 1971, there was very little of Gibbons or Byrd's keyboard music available on record. It remains a favorite.

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It's far from new, it was recorded in 1975 and is available now on Explore...his Byrd discs are great too...

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Post by gperkins151 » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:40 pm

slofstra wrote:I think I already know what the answer is going to be but I'll ask it anyway: Worth getting?

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At another bargain price - $33. I have to get an order together with the Canadian dollar now at par. What a great confluence of events, Canadian dollar at par, bargain sets galore.
Funny Harry, I have had my eye on this one recently myself. :)

Here's a few reviews: http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=3131

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=10772
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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:09 am

CharmNewton wrote:I don't know if Gould ever played a virginal (he did record Handel on a harpsichord--oops, I can hear you gagging again :) ),
You are so right!
but I'd certainly like to hear how he sounded playing one.
You go first. :P
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Post by Chalkperson » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:09 am

slofstra wrote:IAnd I've mentioned it in another thread, but THIS will be OUT on TUESDAY. I see amazon has it up for pre-order now.

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80 CD Glenn Gould omnibus edition, about $220.
For once, here is a box set that is no bargain, the problem with the original jackets series is that you are paying way too much for the packaging, and the cd's are all short, LP length, and there's quite a lot of 'questionable' recordings, IMHO of course... :shock:

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Post by DavidRoss » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:02 pm

Würtz is a bit heavy-handed at times. Uchida is graceful and thoughtful; there's a reason she's a consensus choice. Klien is very good, very clean, perhaps a bit self-conscious for my taste.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Pires: very good, and both the old Denon set on Brilliant and the newer DG set are excellent values.
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Re: Mozart piano sonatas Box question

Post by Yi-Peng » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:42 pm

Have you thought about giving the Uchida set a try? Her approach has a light delicacy that I'm very fond of.

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Post by knotslip » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:47 pm

I was considering the Uchida set until I read a review that said it was recorded poorly, by someone on Amazon.com. I prefer well made recordings if possible. Someone here even said they weren't fond of the way the Wurtz was recorded so I am having some difficulty deciding on a set at this time. :D

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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:12 pm

knotslip wrote:I was considering the Uchida set until I read a review that said it was recorded poorly, by someone on Amazon.com. I prefer well made recordings if possible. Someone here even said they weren't fond of the way the Wurtz was recorded so I am having some difficulty deciding on a set at this time. :D
I'm sorry but I must disagree about Uchida's recording quality, audiophile to audiophile I would never have reccommended her unless the recording was up to scratch, she is much better recorded than Wurtz IMHO... :shock:

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Post by knotslip » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:28 pm

Thanks Chalk - and everyone else...I do believe I am going to go ahead and get the Uchida recording for now and possibly the Wurtz at a later time.

Thanks for all of the input.

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Post by Opus132 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:18 pm

The problem with finding good performances of Mozart's sonatas is that most of those sonatas aren't that good to begin with (sorry).

To be frank, i've always been happy with Casadesus. He didn't record all of them, but the ones he did are spectacular.

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Post by DavidRoss » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:42 pm

knotslip wrote:I was considering the Uchida set until I read a review that said it was recorded poorly, by someone on Amazon.com.
That's a reviewer whose opinions you can cheerfully disregard in the future.
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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:20 pm

DavidRoss wrote:
knotslip wrote:I was considering the Uchida set until I read a review that said it was recorded poorly, by someone on Amazon.com.
That's a reviewer whose opinions you can cheerfully disregard in the future.
Amazon's Reviewers are in fact, more often than not, Customers... :wink:

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