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Which conductor made recordings with the MOST ORCHESTRAS?

Post by Wallingford » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:51 pm

Here's a fun little game. You need only a minimum of knowledge of recordings to play it. You can entlist the aid of the Arkivmusic site to assist you.

Be careful, though, as many of the ensembles listed therein are CHORAL GROUPS featured on the same recordings with orchestra (Beethoven's Ninth, for instance)....remember, it must in the parameters of this thread's title. And try to draw upon your knowledge of live recordings--private, bootleg, airchecks, etc.

My big entries are men who seemingly left recordings with just about every conceivable major orchestra. First, there's

PIERRE MONTEUX:
Atlanta Symphony Orchestra
BBC Northern Symphony
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Boston Chamber Ensemble
Boston Symphony Orchestra
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Colonne Concerts Orchestra
Copenhagen Chamber Orchestra
Danish State Radio Orchestra
French National Orchestra
French Radio & TV Orchestra
Little Orchestra Society
London Philharmonic Orchestra
London Symphony Orchestra
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra
Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
NBC Symphony Orchestra
New York Philharmonic
North German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Paris Conservatoire Orchestra
Paris Opéra Comique Orchestra
Paris Symphony Orchestra
Philadelphia Orchestra
Rome Opera House Orchestra
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Royal Stockholm Philharmonic
San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
USSR State Symphony Orchestra
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
Vienna Symphony Orchestra
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Post by Wallingford » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:02 pm

AND, one with possibly the fairest claim of them all to champ status:

ANTAL DORATI:
Bamberg Symphony Orchestra
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Berlin RIAS Symphony Orchestra
Boston Symphony Orchestra
Budapest Chamber Ensemble
Budapest Symphony Orchestra
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Cleveland Orchestra
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Detroit Symphony Orchestra
European Symphony Orchestra
Hague Residentie Orchestra
Hollywood Bowl Symphony Orchestra
Hungarian Radio/TV Orchestra
Hungarian State Orchestra
Lamoureux Orchestra
Lausanne Chamber Orchestra
London Festival Chamber Orchestra
London Philharmonic Orchestra
London Symphony Orchestra
Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra
Musikaliska Sällskapet
National Philharmonic Orchestra
National Symphony, Washington, D. C.
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra
New York Philharmonic
North German Radio Symphony Orchestra
ORTF National Orchestra
ORTF Philharmonic Orchestra
Philadelphia Orchestra
Philharmonia Hungarica
Philharmonia Orchestra
RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra
Rome Opera House Orchestra
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Royal Opera House Covent Garden Orchestra
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra
San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
Slovak State Philharmonic Chorus
Suisse Romande Orchestra
University of Minnesota Brass Band
Vienna Symphony Orchestra
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Post by Heck148 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:47 pm

without checking the Arkiv listings, I was going to guess Dorati and Monteux as 2 top contenders...there may be some others as well.

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Post by Barry » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:55 pm

Stokowski:

All-American Orchestra
All-American Youth Orchestra
American Symphony Orchestra
Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Czech Philharmonic Orchestra
Danish National Symphony Orchestra
Detroit Symphony Orchestra
Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra
French National Radio Orchestra
Hague Residentie Orchestra
Helsinki City Symphony Orchestra
Helsinki Symphony Orchestra
Hilversum Radio Symphony Orchestra
Hollywood Bowl Symphony Orchestra
Houston Symphony Orchestra
International Festival Youth Orchestra
Italian Switzerland Radio/TV Orchestra
Japan Philharmonic Orchestra
Leopold Stokowski & His Symphony Orchestra
Leopold Stokowski Orchestra
London Philharmonic Orchestra
London Symphony Orchestra
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra
National Philharmonic Orchestra
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra
New Philharmonia Orchestra
New Symphony Orchestra
New York City Opera Orchestra
New York City Symphony
New York Philharmonic
New York Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra
North German Radio Symphony Orchestra
North-West German Radio Orchestra
Northwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Orchestra
ORTF National Orchestra
Philadelphia Orchestra
Philharmonia Orchestra
RCA Victor Chamber Orchestra
RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
Schola Cantorum New York
Southwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Southwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Baden-Baden
St. Moritz International Youth Orchestra
Stadium Symphony Orchestra New York
Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra
Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra
Suisse Romande Orchestra
Symphony of the Air
Symphony Orchestra
USSR Radio/TV Large Symphony Orchestra

A few of these are probably the same orchestra under different names.
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Post by Heck148 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:14 am

Bruno Walter:

Bavarian State Orchestra
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Berlin Staatskapelle Orchestra
Berlin State Opera Orchestra
British Symphony Orchestra
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Columbia Symphony Orchestra
Columbus Symphony Orchestra
Kosice State Philharmonic
London Philharmonic Orchestra
London Symphony Orchestra
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra
Lucerne Festival Orchestra
Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
Mozart Festival Orchestra
NBC Symphony Orchestra
New York Philharmonic
Occidental College Consort Orchestra
Orchestre de la Société du Conservatoire Paris
Paris Mozart Festival Orchestra
Philharmonia Orchestra
Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra [NYPO]
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra
Symphony of the Air
Vancouver International Festival Orchestra
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra

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Post by RebLem » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:16 am

NEEME JARVI is gaining on 'em and is still active:

Bamberg Symphony Orchestra (13)
Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra (2)
BBC Concert Orchestra (1)
BBC Philharmonic Orchestra (4)
Bergen Philharmonic Orchestra (6)
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra (1)
Chicago Symphony Orchestra (6)
Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra (1)
City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra (2)
Danish National Radio Symphony Orchestra (4)
Detroit Symphony Orchestra (30)
Estonian National Symphony Orchestra (1)
Estonian Radio Symphony Orchestra (1)
Estonian State Symphony Orchestra (2)
Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra (1)
Gothenburg Opera Chorus (4)
Gothenburg Opera Orchestra (2)
Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra (120)
I Musici de Montreal (1)
Lahti Symphony Orchestra (1)
London Philharmonic Orchestra (3)
London Symphony Orchestra (10)
Lund's Instrumental Ensemble (1)
Malmö Symphony Orchestra (1)
Metropolitan Opera Orchestra Members (1)
New Jersey Symphony Orchestra Members (1)
New York Philharmonic members (1)
Philadelphia Orchestra members (1)
Philharmonia Orchestra (16)
Royal Concertgebouw Chamber Orchestra (1)
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra (11)
Royal Scottish National Orchestra (93)
Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra (1)
Scottish National Orchestra (2)
Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra (6)
Stockholm Sinfonietta (8)
Suisse Romande Orchestra (2)
Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra (5)
Vienna State Opera Orchestra (1)
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Post by John F » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:55 am

Barry wrote:Stokowski:
All-American Orchestra [etc.]
A few of these are probably the same orchestra under different names.
The Stadium Symphony Orchestra was essentially the New York Philharmonic, which used to play summer concerts in Lewisohn Stadium. And the Hollywood Bowl is the summer venue of the Los Angeles Philharmonic.

Stokowski is probably the statistical winner, given his extremely long career, love of travel, and generally restless life. And he conducted orchestras he never recorded with, probably a great many of them.
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Post by moldyoldie » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:10 am

RebLem wrote:NEEME JARVI is gaining on 'em and is still active:
Either he or the aforementioned Dorati would've been my educated guess; the former a seeming phenomenon of the CD age, the latter of the audiophile stereo LP. It's interesting that both spent time in Detroit...not that there's anything wrong with that. :wink:

If this was about most recorded (and most outré) repertoire, Järvi would win my vote hands down.
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Post by Harold Tucker » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:52 am

I believe we have to drop the Cincinnati Symphony from the Neeme Jarvi list. He has conducted the group, but the recording in question is Ravel's Pavane which is led by his son Paavo.

And, speaking of errors, did any one else note the Hyperion ad in the BBC Music Magazine claiming this to be the 300th anniversary of Chopin's birth. Are there no proof readers anymore?

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Post by josé echenique » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:02 am

I have no clue how many orchestras Zubin Mehta has conducted, but over the years and in different countries, I have heard him with many.

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Post by moldyoldie » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:41 am

josé echenique wrote:I have no clue how many orchestras Zubin Mehta has conducted, but over the years and in different countries, I have heard him with many.
Perhaps, but we're talking about recordings. :wink: Though I'm sure there are others, I only know of his recordings from Los Angeles, New York, London, Vienna, Italy, and Israel. Has he ever recorded from Berlin?
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Post by josé echenique » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:05 pm

moldyoldie wrote:
josé echenique wrote:I have no clue how many orchestras Zubin Mehta has conducted, but over the years and in different countries, I have heard him with many.
Perhaps, but we're talking about recordings. :wink: Though I'm sure there are others, I only know of his recordings from Los Angeles, New York, London, Vienna, Italy, and Israel. Has he ever recorded from Berlin?
He recorded Salome with Eva Marton for SONY with the Berlin Philharmonic. And add the Bayerischen Staatsorchester, he recorded with them a Die Walkúre live and a specially good Mahler III also live in Vienna (Farao Classics).

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Post by Wallingford » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:32 pm

Harold Tucker wrote:I believe we have to drop the Cincinnati Symphony from the Neeme Jarvi list. He has conducted the group, but the recording in question is Ravel's Pavane which is led by his son Paavo.

And, speaking of errors, did any one else note the Hyperion ad in the BBC Music Magazine claiming this to be the 300th anniversary of Chopin's birth. Are there no proof readers anymore?
Though, in theory, Neeme DID guest-conduct in Cincinnati (family affair, of course--went both ways), and therefore, HAD to have some live recordings archived.
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Post by Wallingford » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:34 pm

To Barry's Stoky list, we can add the Boston Symphony, Bergen's Harmonie (or Philharmonic), the Baltimore Symphony and the Budapest Radio Symphony.

These performances you can get thru classicalconducting.com.
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Post by Wallingford » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:35 pm

josé echenique wrote:
moldyoldie wrote:
josé echenique wrote:I have no clue how many orchestras Zubin Mehta has conducted, but over the years and in different countries, I have heard him with many.
Perhaps, but we're talking about recordings. :wink: Though I'm sure there are others, I only know of his recordings from Los Angeles, New York, London, Vienna, Italy, and Israel. Has he ever recorded from Berlin?
He recorded Salome with Eva Marton for SONY with the Berlin Philharmonic. And add the Bayerischen Staatsorchester, he recorded with them a Die Walkúre live and a specially good Mahler III also live in Vienna (Farao Classics).
Also from Berlin, a pretty darn good Liszt tonepoems CD.
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Wallingford wrote:To Barry's Stoky list, we can add the Boston Symphony, Bergen's Harmonie (or Philharmonic), the Baltimore Symphony and the Budapest Radio Symphony.

These performances you can get thru classicalconducting.com.
And of course, he was Music Director in Cincinnati in the pre-recordings days (at least pre-orchestral recordings).
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Post by Wallingford » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:48 pm

...and to Rob's list on Neeme must be added the orchestra NJ's recently been head conductor of: the HAGUE RESIDENTIE ORCH.

There've been several concerts with this combo on Live At The Concertgebouw.....I've duped one off the air which includes a terrific Sibelius Fifth.
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Post by Heck148 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:09 pm

moldyoldie wrote: I only know of his recordings from Los Angeles, New York, London, Vienna, Italy, and Israel. Has he ever recorded from Berlin?
yes - he recorded orchestral music from R. Strauss Operas with BPO - Sony/1990 - terrific disc it is, too.

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Post by barney » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:15 am

Wallingford began: My big entries are men who seemingly left recordings with just about every conceivable major orchestra. First, there's

PIERRE MONTEUX:
Little Orchestra Society


Love those major orchestras. :D

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Post by Wallingford » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:20 pm

barney wrote:Wallingford began: My big entries are men who seemingly left recordings with just about every conceivable major orchestra. First, there's

PIERRE MONTEUX:
Little Orchestra Society


Love those major orchestras. :D
WELL, at the time of recording (late 50s/early 60s) it WAS a force in the New York concert and American recording scenes, under the direction of its founder, Thomas Scherman. They did LPs for Columbia & RCA.
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Post by slofstra » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:04 pm

Barry wrote:Stokowski:

All-American Orchestra
All-American Youth Orchestra
American Symphony Orchestra
Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Czech Philharmonic Orchestra
Danish National Symphony Orchestra
Detroit Symphony Orchestra
Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra
French National Radio Orchestra
Hague Residentie Orchestra
Helsinki City Symphony Orchestra
Helsinki Symphony Orchestra
Hilversum Radio Symphony Orchestra
Hollywood Bowl Symphony Orchestra
Houston Symphony Orchestra
International Festival Youth Orchestra
Italian Switzerland Radio/TV Orchestra
Japan Philharmonic Orchestra
Leopold Stokowski & His Symphony Orchestra
Leopold Stokowski Orchestra
London Philharmonic Orchestra
London Symphony Orchestra
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra
National Philharmonic Orchestra
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra
New Philharmonia Orchestra
New Symphony Orchestra
New York City Opera Orchestra
New York City Symphony
New York Philharmonic
New York Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra
North German Radio Symphony Orchestra
North-West German Radio Orchestra
Northwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Orchestra
ORTF National Orchestra
Philadelphia Orchestra
Philharmonia Orchestra
RCA Victor Chamber Orchestra
RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
Schola Cantorum New York
Southwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Southwest German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Baden-Baden
St. Moritz International Youth Orchestra
Stadium Symphony Orchestra New York
Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra
Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra
Suisse Romande Orchestra
Symphony of the Air
Symphony Orchestra
USSR Radio/TV Large Symphony Orchestra

A few of these are probably the same orchestra under different names.
Where are you pulling this from, Barry?

I ran a quick check on our database and Stokowski is the clear winner, but with only 27 orchestras.

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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:44 pm

slofstra wrote:Where are you pulling this from, Barry?

I ran a quick check on our database and Stokowski is the clear winner, but with only 27 orchestras.
Well, it ain't Rate Bach.com, that's for sure... :wink:
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Chalkperson wrote:
slofstra wrote:Where are you pulling this from, Barry?

I ran a quick check on our database and Stokowski is the clear winner, but with only 27 orchestras.
Well, it ain't Rate Bach.com, that's for sure... :wink:
For some reason I don't think Barry typed it all in.

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Chalkperson wrote:
slofstra wrote:Where are you pulling this from, Barry?

I ran a quick check on our database and Stokowski is the clear winner, but with only 27 orchestras.
Well, it ain't Rate Bach.com, that's for sure... :wink:
Oh I see, it's coming from arkivmusic. I believe they just lease the same database used by many of the radio stations.

We're working with some collectors now to add more information to our database. If you have a spreadsheet or database of recordings we're interested in "data donations" to help beef up the database. Just PM me and we can talk about it.

If you want to see what we have on file in our admittedly partial database. Go to this link: http://www.ratebach.com/Search

Type "stok" in the Performer box. Click on Stokowski. Now you can click on one composer or composition at a time to review his recordings.
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slofstra wrote:I see, it's coming from arkivmusic. I believe they just lease the same database used by many of the radio station
Whilst many do lease that Database, which has up to 60 million Tracks, Arkiv does not...their Database is made up from the Recordings that they have for sale, as others have pointed out, Conductors often worked live with Orchestras, but, may not have recorded with them...
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Post by Wallingford » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:09 pm

....and, to my Dorati list must be added the Vienna Philharmonic. (A status symbol--and he deserves it, nicht wahr?)

They did some Strauss waltzes for London (Phase 4?), and which aren't presently available according to Arkiv.
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Post by Wallingford » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:13 pm

To Bruno Walter's list must be added the Boston Symphony, San Francisco Symphony, and Philadelphia Orchestra.
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Chalkperson wrote:
slofstra wrote:I see, it's coming from arkivmusic. I believe they just lease the same database used by many of the radio station
Whilst many do lease that Database, which has up to 60 million Tracks, Arkiv does not...their Database is made up from the Recordings that they have for sale, as others have pointed out, Conductors often worked live with Orchestras, but, may not have recorded with them...
I'm pretty sure that other than the overall catalog listing, which is theirs, they pull track and performer information from a third party. I believe they're called MUZE. A bit of Googling seems to connect MUZE, All Music guide and other projects.

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slofstra wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
slofstra wrote:I see, it's coming from arkivmusic. I believe they just lease the same database used by many of the radio station
Whilst many do lease that Database, which has up to 60 million Tracks, Arkiv does not...their Database is made up from the Recordings that they have for sale, as others have pointed out, Conductors often worked live with Orchestras, but, may not have recorded with them...
I'm pretty sure that other than the overall catalog listing, which is theirs, they pull track and performer information from a third party. I believe they're called MUZE. A bit of Googling seems to connect MUZE, All Music guide and other projects.
Yes, I agree with that because often the track listing is wrong...
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