The Lance Armstrong of Classical Music

[living_stradivarius]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/arts/ ... ml?hp&_r=0

[stenka razin]

The New York Times obviously does not know the difference between a 'renowned' composer and this Japanese charlatan.

He is described as a 'Renowned Japanese Composer Admits Fraud' in their front page on the internet........Renowned my eye!


Regards,
Mel

[jbuck919]

The New York Times obviously does not know the difference between a 'renowned' composer and this Japanese charlatan.

He is described as a 'Renowned Japanese Composer Admits Fraud' in their front page on the internet........Renowned my eye!

They also said he "confessed" that someone else had written his music. What he did was admit that someone else had written his music. He confessed, implicitly anyway, that he is a fraud. Important difference, Times editors.

[John F]

Nothing to do with Lance Armstrong, who personally rode and won all those bicycle races, however improperly he managed to do it - no other cyclist rode them for him. Perhaps a better analogy would be the composer Osvaldo Golijov, whose "Sidereus," offered as his own music, is actually Michael Ward-Bergeman's "Barbeich," slightly revised.

[IcedNote]

C'mon...you guys are missing the best part of the article!

"The scandal has brought an abrupt fall from grace for Mr. Samuragochi, a man who looked the part of a modern-day composer with his long hair, stylish dark suits and ever-present sunglasses."



Or should I say...

-G

[Chalkperson]

Nothing to do with Lance Armstrong, who personally rode and won all those bicycle races, however improperly he managed to do it - no other cyclist rode them for him. Perhaps a better analogy would be the composer Osvaldo Golijov, whose "Sidereus," offered as his own music, is actually Michael Ward-Bergeman's "Barbeich," slightly revised.

Your pedantry knows no bounds, now the Thread titles at CMG are subject to your scrutiny. You just love spoiling people's fun here, no wonder they leave, or only post occasionally.

[John F]

Nothing to do with Lance Armstrong, who personally rode and won all those bicycle races, however improperly he managed to do it - no other cyclist rode them for him. Perhaps a better analogy would be the composer Osvaldo Golijov, whose "Sidereus," offered as his own music, is actually Michael Ward-Bergeman's "Barbeich," slightly revised.

Your pedantry knows no bounds, now the Thread titles at CMG are subject to your scrutiny. You just love spoiling people's fun here, no wonder they leave, or only post occasionally.

Personal insults have no place in Classical Music Guide. You're supposed to be a moderator here. So be moderate, then.

[jbuck919]

C'mon...you guys are missing the best part of the article!

"The scandal has brought an abrupt fall from grace for Mr. Samuragochi, a man who looked the part of a modern-day composer with his long hair, stylish dark suits and ever-present sunglasses."

I don't know about you, but it describes Karl Henning to a T.

[bigshot]

This is common in other forms of composing. "Danny Elfman" isn't an individual person any more. It's a team trained to create Elfmanesque music..

[Chalkperson]

Nothing to do with Lance Armstrong, who personally rode and won all those bicycle races, however improperly he managed to do it - no other cyclist rode them for him. Perhaps a better analogy would be the composer Osvaldo Golijov, whose "Sidereus," offered as his own music, is actually Michael Ward-Bergeman's "Barbeich," slightly revised.

Your pedantry knows no bounds, now the Thread titles at CMG are subject to your scrutiny. You just love spoiling people's fun here, no wonder they leave, or only post occasionally.

Personal insults have no place in Classical Music Guide. You're supposed to be a moderator here. So be moderate, then.

The point is simple, people don't post here because of the pedantic way you critique and criticize everything from Thread titles to someone using the word spectacular to describe Claudio Abbado on his death, that was by a member who's first language is not English.

It costs us members.

And this is me speaking, as a poster, you were a book editor, try editing your own replies, for example.

Perhaps a better analogy would be the composer Osvaldo Golijov, whose "Sidereus," offered as his own music, is actually Michael Ward-Bergeman's "Barbeich," slightly revised.

That's all you needed to write, the rest is superfluous and pointless, we all know about Lance Armstrong, we don't need you to explain it to us.

That's why I say you spoil our fun. Your behavior on the Abbado thread was nothing short of embarrassing to the Board. Because you did it in a thread celebrating his life.