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Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:41 pm

The Art of the Jewish Russian painter Boris Dubrov creating paintings that express the holiness and beauty of Jewish life.

Oil on Canvas.

Prepearing for Passover holiday

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Balagule

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Jewish shtatle

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Shtatle sump

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Shabbat blessing

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Chess players

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Disscusing Talmud

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Hanukah holiday

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Like father

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Shavuot

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The Torah remarks

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Klezmers

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The shoemaker

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Learning

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Learning the wisdom of Torah

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The three sons

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The morning lesson

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The grandson

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Mishloach Manot ( On Purim Holiday, meaning sending food portions to each other)

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First adornment of Tephilin

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The melody

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Sabbath

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Torah Debate

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The Rabbi

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klezmer

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At the house of tailor

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Sounding The Shofar

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Joy in the village

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Ralph » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:40 am

The paintings are very nice and the artist captures emotions on faces quite beautifully. I'm struck by the fact that except for one work, "Sabbath," women are wholly absent. And this reflects the reality of the subordination of women in the Orthodox Jewish religion notwithstanding the apologetics of those who explain away this reality.
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:18 pm

Ralph wrote:The paintings are very nice and the artist captures emotions on faces quite beautifully. I'm struck by the fact that except for one work, "Sabbath," women are wholly absent. And this reflects the reality of the subordination of women in the Orthodox Jewish religion notwithstanding the apologetics of those who explain away this reality.
LOL Ralph, too bad you can't enjoy the art and you must turn again to lies.

I will post more of the same paintings with lots of women and you will be ashamed.

I also expect an Apology.

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The Queen of Shabat
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The Jewish Bride
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And there are many many more!

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Ralph » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:01 pm

SaulChanukah wrote:
Ralph wrote:The paintings are very nice and the artist captures emotions on faces quite beautifully. I'm struck by the fact that except for one work, "Sabbath," women are wholly absent. And this reflects the reality of the subordination of women in the Orthodox Jewish religion notwithstanding the apologetics of those who explain away this reality.
LOL Ralph, too bad you can't enjoy the art and you must turn again to lies.

I will post more of the same paintings with lots of women and you will be ashamed.

I also expect an Apology.

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The Queen of Shabat
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The Jewish Bride
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And there are many many more!
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You'll get an apology when you meet me and share a ham and cheese sandwich with me.

You seem incapable of understanding a critical comment as anything other than an attack on your religion. I'm glad you posted additional art work but from my perspective an analysis of all the works shows women carrying out their assigned roles without interacting with men (the wedding obviously the exception) while the men are shown in a veriety of modes that reflect control, camaraderie and power.

Note that I expressed pleasure at the artist's skill. That does not deprive me from critically analyzing the content in terms of the artist's views.
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:27 pm

Ralph wrote:
SaulChanukah wrote:
Ralph wrote:The paintings are very nice and the artist captures emotions on faces quite beautifully. I'm struck by the fact that except for one work, "Sabbath," women are wholly absent. And this reflects the reality of the subordination of women in the Orthodox Jewish religion notwithstanding the apologetics of those who explain away this reality.
LOL Ralph, too bad you can't enjoy the art and you must turn again to lies.

I will post more of the same paintings with lots of women and you will be ashamed.

I also expect an Apology.

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The Queen of Shabat
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The Jewish Bride
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And there are many many more!
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You'll get an apology when you meet me and share a ham and cheese sandwich with me.

You seem incapable of understanding a critical comment as anything other than an attack on your religion. I'm glad you posted additional art work but from my perspective an analysis of all the works shows women carrying out their assigned roles without interacting with men (the wedding obviously the exception) while the men are shown in a veriety of modes that reflect control, camaraderie and power.

Note that I expressed pleasure at the artist's skill. That does not deprive me from critically analyzing the content in terms of the artist's views.
My problem with your comment is that you should have not turned yet another thread into an attack on religion and Judaism in particular.
Why can't you just enjoy the art without inserting these comments which are against religion?

Your critical analysis is another matter and I can refute it very easily and I have already done so yet much remains to be said, but that's besides the point.

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by jbuck919 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:46 pm

That's a very nice collection of, um, Madonnas, Saul. :|

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Ralph » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:25 pm

Saul,

You manage to ask a good question but one posited on an irrational conclusion.

I love art and go to museums and galleries often, I have an extensive art library. I approach art as I do music-analytically. That does not mean I do or do not enjoy any particular work.

As to your assuming my interpretation is an attack on your faith, that says everything about you and nothing about me. When I see Christian iconography I also approach explaining my reaction intellectually and that does not mean I do or do not appreciate the quality of the works.
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:45 am

Has the word monomania occurred to anyone yet? :D
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:10 am

Corlyss_D wrote:Has the word monomania occurred to anyone yet? :D
Many times!

The deep concentration of some members here to hunt Saul at all costs even if he creates an art thread.

This word has many implications, but I'm sure you have gone in line with my version...

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by moreno » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:55 pm

Quite frankly, I don't like it at all. He's mediocre at best.
If you really want to enjoy the art of an outstanding Jewish painter (since religion seems to be relevant), have a look at this:
http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Marc_Chagall/

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:07 pm

moreno wrote:Quite frankly, I don't like it at all. He's mediocre at best.
If you really want to enjoy the art of an outstanding Jewish painter (since religion seems to be relevant), have a look at this:
http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Marc_Chagall/
Who also happened to be celebrating the same (or at least a parallel) culture being depicted in Saul's offerings.

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Cosima__J » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:11 pm

Well I'm a woman and I was not in the least offended by the lack of women pictured in the artists work. In fact, I thought the art was charming and affecting in a Norman Rockwell sort of way. I could almost hear that klezmer band. Ralph, I would agree that I would not care to be transported into the life depicted there. But perhaps there are some valuable qualities of life on display in this art. I would not so quickly dismiss a lifestyle just because it doesn't have our modern, liberated woman sensibilities. Let's not "throw out the baby with the bathwater".

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:16 pm

Cosima__J wrote:Well I'm a woman and I was not in the least offended by the lack of women pictured in the artists work. In fact, I thought the art was charming and affecting in a Norman Rockwell sort of way. I could almost hear that klezmer band. Ralph, I would agree that I would not care to be transported into the life depicted there. But perhaps there are some valuable qualities of life on display in this art. I would not so quickly dismiss a lifestyle just because it doesn't have our modern, liberated woman sensibilities. Let's not "throw out the baby with the bathwater".
You always make reasonable and thoughtful comments. Thank you.

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:35 pm

The Ben Ish Chai - The Chief Rabbi of Iraq, lived around 100 years ago, had a 'Giluiee' - Revelation from the Prophet Elijah who taught him Torah. He is considered one of the Great Kabbalah Masters. Authored over 100 Books on all Torah Subjects. Many call him 'The Angel'. His books on Halacha and Kabbalah are highly influential with both Sepharadim and Ashkenazim.

This is an accurate painting based on a Photograph.
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Chaim Joseph David ben Isaac Zerachia Azulai (1724 – 21 March 1807) (Hebrew: חיים יוסף דוד אזולאי), commonly known as the Chida (by the acronym of his name, חיד"א), was a rabbinical scholar and a noted bibliophile, who pioneered the history of Jewish religious writings. One of the Greatest Kabbalah Masters had composed over 100 Books on all subjects of Torah. His father was Sefaradi, his mother Ashkenazi, he is considered a Great Sepharadic Rabbi, and highly respected by all Jews around the world. He was also a Great Poet and had phenomenal photographic memory.

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The Baba Sali

Rabbi Yisrael Abuhatzeira - One of the most loved and adheared Rabbis of all time. One of the Great Kabbalah Masters of all Time. Was a leading Moroccan Rabbi who was renowned for his ability to work miracles through his prayers. Born September 1890. He immigrated to Israel in 1922.

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The Greats

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The Skolyer Rabbi

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Jewish Girl from Morocco

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Jewish Wedding by Israëls, Jozef

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:06 pm

SaulChanukah wrote:The Ben Ish Chai - The Cheif Rabbi of Iraq, lived around 100 years ago, studied with the Prophet Elijah,
:?:

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Guitarist » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:13 pm

SaulChanukah wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:Has the word monomania occurred to anyone yet? :D
Many times!

The deep concentration of some members here to hunt Saul at all costs even if he creates an art thread.
But even your art thread is religion-based. I think that's where the monomania comes in.

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:33 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
SaulChanukah wrote:The Ben Ish Chai - The Cheif Rabbi of Iraq, lived around 100 years ago, studied with the Prophet Elijah,
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Yes its a known thing that Many world famus Rabbis had revelations from the Higher Worlds from The Greats. Some Rabbis had Moses , Abraham, Isaac and Jacob reveal themselves to them to teach them Torah. In Judaism this is called "Gillueem". The Ben Ish Chai and many other Great Rabbis had, the Prophet Elijah reveal himself to them to teach them Torah. In fact the Great Rabbi Yosef Karo, had composed a book called "Magid Meisharim" in which he writes all the wisdom and instruction that an Angel had though him. Angelic revelations were common among the Great Rabbis.
The Ari, who is considered one of the Greatest Kabbalists of all time, Lived around 500 years ago in Israel had the Prophet Elijah reveal himself to teach him Torah.

Anyways, I have added more paintings, to the list above.

Regards,

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Ralph » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:44 pm

Cosima__J wrote:Well I'm a woman and I was not in the least offended by the lack of women pictured in the artists work. In fact, I thought the art was charming and affecting in a Norman Rockwell sort of way. I could almost hear that klezmer band. Ralph, I would agree that I would not care to be transported into the life depicted there. But perhaps there are some valuable qualities of life on display in this art. I would not so quickly dismiss a lifestyle just because it doesn't have our modern, liberated woman sensibilities. Let's not "throw out the baby with the bathwater".
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I'm not throwing out anything or anybody. I respect the rights of all which happens to be a large part of my life. My comment was based on what I took from the paintings, not what I would do to change the lifestyle of any religious group.
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:05 pm

moreno wrote:Quite frankly, I don't like it at all. He's mediocre at best.
The artist is ethnic. What do you expect? Rembrandt? Probably just a knock on Saul, like whoever was crabbing about his computer art not being real art, whatever that is. Tell that to the folks at Pixar.
If you really want to enjoy the art of an outstanding Jewish painter (since religion seems to be relevant), have a look at this:
http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Marc_Chagall/
Plenty of enjoyable art has been created by people you never heard of. The artist doesn't have to be an icon of 20th century art to be uplifting or moving.
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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:10 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
moreno wrote:Quite frankly, I don't like it at all. He's mediocre at best.
The artist is ethnic. What do you expect? Rembrandt? Probably just a knock on Saul, like whoever was crabbing about his computer art not being real art, whatever that is. Tell that to the folks at Pixar.
If you really want to enjoy the art of an outstanding Jewish painter (since religion seems to be relevant), have a look at this:
http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Marc_Chagall/
Plenty of enjoyable art has been created by people you never heard of. The artist doesn't have to be an icon of 20th century art to be uplifting or moving.
That's right!

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:41 pm

Art by Elena Flerova

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by Daisy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:20 am

I think all of the paintings are charming and enjoyable, though I'd like to have seen some of the Chagall paintings posted here. My favorites are the ones with the Klezmer bands (I love Klezmer) and the two kids in their Purim costumes. There is an awful lot of lovely Jewish art out there, some of my favorites have been illustrators of children's books - though my favorite Jewish artist of all is Al Hirschfeld, the grand old man who ran up and down stairs every day of his 99 years.

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Re: Jewish Art

Post by SaulChanukah » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:07 pm

Daisy wrote:I think all of the paintings are charming and enjoyable, though I'd like to have seen some of the Chagall paintings posted here. My favorites are the ones with the Klezmer bands (I love Klezmer) and the two kids in their Purim costumes. There is an awful lot of lovely Jewish art out there, some of my favorites have been illustrators of children's books - though my favorite Jewish artist of all is Al Hirschfeld, the grand old man who ran up and down stairs every day of his 99 years.

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Glad you like the paintings.

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