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Astonishing discovery

Post by SaulChanukah » Sun May 02, 2010 11:39 pm

Please pay close attention.

I was listening to a debate of a Rabbi against a Christian Missionary.

In the debate the Rabbi pointed out to the Minster two verses from the 'New Testament' to be specific in the book of Acts 7:15 through 16 and it reads the following:

'So Jacob went down into Egypt, and died, he, and our fathers, 7:16 And were carried over into Sychem, and laid in the sepulchre that Abraham bought for a sum of money of the sons of Emmor the father of Sychem'

This is extremely amazing because everyone knows that Abraham Isaac and Jacob were buried in a place the Torah called 'Meharat Hamachpela' the 'Cave of the Machpela' in the city of HEBRON.

And the 'New Testament' verse said that Abraham was buried in 'Sychem' meaning 'Nablus'. Every Jewish boy in the world knows that Sychem means Nablus.

What in the world the ‘New Testament’ is talking about?

How in the world can it make such an astonishing ignorant mistake?

Lets read it from the Authentic Source , The Book of Genesis from the Holy Torah Blessed is the word of God, this is where Abraham had purchased the field for Sarah's burial:

Genesis 23:19

"And after this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah before Mamre--the same is Hebron--in the land of Canaan".

And if you look further in the text this is where Abraham himself was buried :

Genesis 25 verses 7,8 and 9:


7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, a hundred threescore and fifteen years.
8 And Abraham expired, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.
9 And Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre"

And this is not the only critical mistake the author of Acts had made, and remember, that the Christians consider these verses as the word of God, but how can they consider this to be the word of God when they make such categorical mistakes, its extremely ignorant, the Torah says where Abraham was buried so clearly, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU NOT GET THAT?

Second critical error:

The Book of Acts says that Abraham purchased the burial site from the sons of Emmor:

7:16 "And were carried over into Sychem, and laid in the sepulchre that Abraham bought for a sum of money of the sons of Emmor the father of Sychem".

But what Genesis says about this?

Genesis 25:9

"And Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre"

Who in the world are the 'Sons of Emmor' the Christian book of Acts is talking about?

The Torah which the Christians admit came before anyone and consider holy completely disagrees and says that Abraham purchased it from 'Ephron,

Another Critical mistake!

The Book of Acts says that Emmor was the father of Sychem, but that is categorically false for the Torah says that the Father of Sychem was Hamor:

Genesis 34:2

"And Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the prince of the land, saw her; and he took her, and lay with her, and humbled her"

How can the Christians claim the New Testament to be the word of God and therefore divine, when there are such astonishing (I'm telling you I'm speechless) critical errors?

The word of God must be perfect. No mistakes.

Even if you have one mistake then its not the word of God, let alone three huge critical errors within 2 verses.

I would like to hear from Brendan what he has to say about these findings, what's the next acrobatic thing he is going to pull from his hat, to resolve these shocking huge problems for the Christian religion.


Clearly the 'New Testament' is a false document.
Last edited by SaulChanukah on Wed May 05, 2010 10:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Brendan

Re: Astonishing discovery

Post by Brendan » Mon May 03, 2010 2:58 am

Acts 7:16

The saga of Jacob and his sons ends with their burial. There is a difference in the burial traditions as well. In Gen. 49:29-32 and 50:13 Jacob was buried at Mechpelah near Hebron, a site Abraham had purchased from Ephron the Hittite (Gen. 23) . . . Joseph was buried at Shechem (Josh. 24:32) on land purchased by Jacob fropmt he sons of Hamos (Gen. 33:18-20). Josephus has Jacob buried at Hebron, as well as Joseph’s brothers (Ant. 2.8.2 , Jub. 46.8-9, Joseph is buried in Egypt, and Jacob’s sons are rbought to Mechpelah; T Reu. 7.2)), but a local tradition at Shechem has Jacob’s sons buried there (Marshall 1980: 138). Stephen has focused on Shechem . . . Stephen’s key point is that burial took place in the promised land, and the move was an act of faith that God would keep his word.
Bock, Darrell L. – Acts [Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament, 2007 p. 288-289]

The author of Acts was Luke, who was not a Jew, and seemed to use the local traditions of his day to good effect.

All you have done is shown once again what an ignorant anti-Christian bigot you are.

Why this forum has been allowed to become Saul's Private Fundamentalist Lies & Propaganda Blog is quite beyond me.

SaulChanukah

Re: Astonishing discovery

Post by SaulChanukah » Mon May 03, 2010 7:38 am

Brendan wrote:Acts 7:16

The saga of Jacob and his sons ends with their burial. There is a difference in the burial traditions as well. In Gen. 49:29-32 and 50:13 Jacob was buried at Mechpelah near Hebron, a site Abraham had purchased from Ephron the Hittite (Gen. 23) . . . Joseph was buried at Shechem (Josh. 24:32) on land purchased by Jacob fropmt he sons of Hamos (Gen. 33:18-20). Josephus has Jacob buried at Hebron, as well as Joseph’s brothers (Ant. 2.8.2 , Jub. 46.8-9, Joseph is buried in Egypt, and Jacob’s sons are rbought to Mechpelah; T Reu. 7.2)), but a local tradition at Shechem has Jacob’s sons buried there (Marshall 1980: 138). Stephen has focused on Shechem . . . Stephen’s key point is that burial took place in the promised land, and the move was an act of faith that God would keep his word.
Bock, Darrell L. – Acts [Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament, 2007 p. 288-289]

The author of Acts was Luke, who was not a Jew, and seemed to use the local traditions of his day to good effect.

All you have done is shown once again what an ignorant anti-Christian bigot you are.

Why this forum has been allowed to become Saul's Private Fundamentalist Lies & Propaganda Blog is quite beyond me.
I have never seen such a poor and foolish answer to a very simple and direct question.

You are lying to my face!

There is no contradiction in the Torah where Abraham Isaac and Jacob were buried, it was in Hebron.

Yet The book of acts , which you claim was the word of God totally ignores what the Torah says, and invents a new location called Nablus.

Yet you have the nerve to call me ignorant? Where do you get off? and don’t you have an ounce of decency to admit the truth, and to admit that there is a serious problem here?

What a shame, you have no regards to truth and the most basic decency to admit a failure and a problem.

You have no idea how you have with your unbelievably poor 'answer' contradicted yourself, and those who will read this here in the site, will finally see, clearly that you are not able to answer the questions, and are in fact lying, and using character assassination in order to silence any criticism, just like the first Christians called the Jews all sort of names to silence any opposition to their heretic ways.

Even in the debate, the Minister admitted to the Rabbi, that it was a problem, and he didn’t have anything to say.

Why are you behaving like a paranoid?

Why can't you for the sake of truth and honesty, admit these astonishing critical problems that exist in the NT?

If you don't give me clear answers, that actually deal and solve these problems to the fullest, it is then clear evidence, that you have no answers for them and are willing to follow a religion that has many critical problems.

Things like:

Misquotations

Misapplications

Mistranslations

Errors of names

Errors of places

Errors in been able to read the Torah correctly

Errors in understanding the words correctly

Errors in Genealogy

And many other problems.

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