Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

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Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by jserraglio » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:23 pm

The Guardian wrote:Donald Trump has “become a potty-mouth and children are listening”, the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, told Democrats . . . .
NEW YORK TIMES

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/opin ... ection_AMP

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by barney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:33 am

This is interesting to me as a non-American because I did not immediately spot the racist undertones. It just isn't the same problem in Australia (not that racism doesn't exist, of course, but it's not part of the fabric), so I took it at face value until (next sentence) the reporter explained. Is he right, in the view of my American fellow posters?

The same with the potty mouth. Australians are not nearly so concerned with a bit of language. That's not to say we wouldn't criticise politicians who spoke as Trump do, but we see an over concern with not swearing as a bit prudish. I am well aware that I smuggled in my own values with the term "over concern". But the sort of people who might be concerned about swearing - Christians - seem to forgive that reprehensible imbecile anything, so I don't see how they can complain.

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by jserraglio » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:37 am

The Times columnist is right on target for calling out Trump as a race baiter. Cf Solomon Northup's eloquent memoir "Twelve Years a Slave" (1853) for a wealth of historically accurate detail about Whites' fear of being seen as subservient to a gifted African-American man.

Pelosi is no common scold nor prude but instead the consummate pol. Her rebuke of the Donald as a potty-mouth is a calculated Lilliputian meme, imaging the President as the traditional naughty boy of American folklore who needs his mouth washed out with soap (c/w a good spanking from her to boot), and thereby serving to diminish him in the eyes of his supporters.

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by barney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:45 pm

Yes, I see that, and that it is indeed clever. But I don't see how she could diminish him more than he diminishes himself. Look at how incredibly fast American influence has collapsed after his betrayal of the Kurds, and that is spreading beyond the Middle East.

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by jserraglio » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:42 pm

Hillary Clinton Nancy Pelosi ain't.

The Speaker knows how to get into Donald Trump's head. A formidable opponent who happens to be the one who cleaned Trump's clock in the 2018 elections and is now third in the line of succession should Trump fall, Pelosi increasingly treats the POTUS like a misbehaving schoolboy she is contemptuously dismissive of.

Case in point. Just tonite the Speaker appears on a national prime-time PC and states that his oath of office only obliges the President to fulfill it "to the best of his abilities" and then rolls her eyes and throws up her hands in mock despair while the assembled reporters chuckle at her suggestion that Trump's Ukraine and Syria debacles may not be in fact a violation of that oath b/c they showcase the best of his demonstrably limited abilities.

Being laughed at is anathema to Trump — it's unforgivable — the charge he hurls time and again into the teeth of opponents. Now he himself has become a figure of fun for the Speaker who apparently is determined to confront Trump head on. She takes pains to appear presidential while he comes across in public like a rotund brat in kneepants.The contrast btw her coolness and his tantrums is so stark it cannot fail to register with the Independent voters, in particular suburban women, that her message is aimed at.

Having eaten Trump's lunch in 2018, Pelosi is out to starve him next year by stripping away those who supported him only with misgivings. Her strategy seems to be to inflict on Trump political death by a thousand cuts. If that can topple him, and it won't be easy, she'll go down as the greatest Speaker in modern history.

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by lennygoran » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:07 am

jserraglio wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:42 pm
Being laughed at is anathema to Trump — it's unforgivable — the charge he hurls time and again into the teeth of opponents.
This brings back this! Regards, Len :lol:


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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by jserraglio » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:38 pm

Trump exploded at Pelosi today in a WH meeting about Syria, calling the Speaker a "third-grade politician" to her face.

Caption: Schoolboy in kneepants throws tantrum.
The New York Times wrote:According to the Democratic account [of the meeting], Ms. Pelosi at one point noted that President Vladimir V. Putin’s Russia has always wanted a “foothold in the Middle East” and now has one.

“All roads with you lead to Putin,” she told Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump suggested that the Democrats liked the Kurds in part because they included some communists. He lashed out at Ms. Pelosi. “In my opinion, you are a third-grade politician,” he told her, according to the speaker. (Mr. Schumer and the White House both recalled the insult as “third-rate politician.”)

When Ms. Pelosi and Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the House majority leader, stood to leave, Mr. Trump called out, “Goodbye, we’ll see you at the polls.”

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by lennygoran » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 am

jserraglio wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:38 pm
Trump exploded at Pelosi today in a WH meeting about Syria, calling the Speaker a "third-grade politician" to her face.

Caption: Schoolboy in kneepants throws tantrum.

Image

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by jserraglio » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:42 am

Caption: 'Third-grade' teacher sends unruly student to Principal's office.

What the dickens is the WH thinking? They publish a photo that shows the Speaker standing and pointing powerfully at a seated, subservient President?

Have they no idea how this image reinforces Pelosi's appeal to Independent women voters crucial to Trump's reelection?

Has the WH press operation gone completely off the rails?

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Re: Pelosi chides Trump as a public 'potty mouth'

Post by lennygoran » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:47 am

jserraglio wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:42 am
Has the WH press operation gone completely off the rails?
One things for sure-trump has gone completely off the rails-he calls all the shots-then everyone else tries to clean up the mess. Regards, Len

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