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 Post subject: "Inception"
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:21 pm 
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Anybody seen it? Thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Maybe this should be in a separate thread, but I haven't gone to a movie theater in at least
three years. The reason is simple: I have a lovely flat-screen, large-screen television and a
state-of-the-art surround sound system in my living room and my comfortable couch and chair
are only six feet away. I simply wait for a DVD to go on sale (if I want to see a "new" movie)
and buy it. With a collection that runs over 800 DVDs to date, and HBO for new stuff that isn't
in theaters, I just don't want to put up with annoying audiences and expensive popcorn anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:10 pm 
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David, that's a very sensible way to see movies, but I really like seeing a movie on the BIG screen and sharing the experience with an audience. Kinda the same reasoning about why I love going to a live concert or musical or play.


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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:28 pm 
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A year or two ago, the New York Times ran a story or an Op-Ed talking about current film
watchers being divided - like you and I - between those who go to the theater to see films
and those who wait to view them at home on cable, DVD, or rentals. It's split about evenly,
according to the story, so we're not the only ones. I also don't go out much to attend music
concerts or theater, probably for the same reasons.

It's interesting that these choices exist now, which has only been the case for maybe a decade,
yet audiences have made choices and patterns have been established. For me, it's also a matter
of economics and some of the associated "nuisances" such as driving into the city, parking,
walking discomforts, and putting up with fellow attendees. I also admit it was easier and more
fun a few years ago. You might say age is also a factor. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:09 am 
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I saw this pop-philosophical extravaganza yesterday and was not impressed. Director Chistopher Nolan evidently had total artistic control, and so far it has paid off handsomely for him at the box office. Nolan's special effects are stunning, but I could hardly absorb them over the deafening thud, thump and roar of Hans Zimmer's musical score. In the narrative Cobb/DiCaprio carries around a "totem", a spinning top he uses to tell dreams from reality. The toy top is evocative of the movie itself: special effects jacked into an idea that has been treated with much greater effect and more modestly in films like Alex Proyas's Dark City and Kathryn Bigelow's Strange Days. Sadly, Inception's vaunted "dream-levels" (a Chinese-box of dreams within dreams within dreams) look like little more than video game levels elaborately inter-cut with one another.

DiCaprio appears to be sleepwalking through it all. Given the movie's theme, maybe that's not such a bad idea. My favorite character, though, is Cobb's improbably sweet sidekick Ariadne (Ellen Page). She is engaged to build labyinths but more often than not she loses the thread. So did I. And no matter how you cut it, the ending, dream or not, comes across as pure Hollywood schmaltz.


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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
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I will be seing it in IMAX at the Air and Space Theatre in Virginia next week. It has gotten very mixed reviews and even the positive ones imply that you have to see it a second time to understand it. Not the movie to take the kiddies to see!


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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:18 pm 
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Saw it - HATED it - left half way through. Special effects - he more violent the better - if that's the way they make movies these days, I've got better things to do.

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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
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The last flick I walked out on was Gone with the Wind, but my wife wouldn't walk out on Inception, even though she hated it just as much as I did.


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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
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If you don't require character depth, don't mind endless violence, prefer movies that are 30 minutes too long, and enjoy movies that are about 90% CGI, then this is for you! I had low expectations and was a bit surprised that I liked it at all. I guess I mainly enjoyed the creative ideas and mind-blowing effects. Since it was a summer blockbuster, I did not expect much in the way of characterization or nuanced acting; thus, I was not disappointed on those levels!

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 Post subject: Re: "Inception"
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Interesting take on Inception as a generational litmus test by Patrick Goldstein of the LA Times.

I can see why the movie's kinetic style and pseudo-profundity would appeal to a young audience. Also there's nothing really disturbing about the film--it's rated PG-13, it had a feel-good ending. I hated it, nearly walked out, but I will probably buy the DVD and watch it again. It took two viewings for me to appreciate Inglorious Basterds and I do like Nolan's other films, particularly 3:10 to Yuma.
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The Age of ‘Inception’: Gamers Get It, Geezers Don’t

[3 August 2010]
By Patrick Goldstein

Los Angeles Times (MCT)

The other day I was talking to an old Hollywood hand who was astounded by the runaway success of “Inception.” It turned out that he’d seen the film on its opening weekend in a private screening room with a number of industry elder statesmen, including at least two former studio chiefs and a couple of their young offspring.

After the movie was over, the industry elders were shaking their heads in disbelief, appalled by the film’s lack of clarity, having been absolutely unable to follow the film’s often convoluted story.

But before anyone could register their complaints, one of the younger people on hand, flush with excitement, praised the film to the rooftops. To him, it was such a thrill ride that if the projectionist could show the film again, he’d sit through it again right away.

Clearly “Inception” has struck a deep nerve with moviegoers. The Leonardo DiCaprio-starring film has been the No. 1 film in America for three weeks in a row, having racked up nearly $200 million in total domestic box-office grosses, easily making it the biggest surprise hit of the summer. But from the moment “Inception” was released, it was obvious from polling data that the movie had created both a critical and a generational divide.

Some critics have raved about the film’s originality while others have mocked its excesses. If you were a young moviegoer, you loved the visually arresting puzzle-box thriller. But the older you got, according to polling data, the more likely you were to detest the film’s run ‘n’ gun, dream-within-a-dream complexity.

I guess I’m somewhere in the middle ground of the debate, since I was dazzled by the movie’s originality, but also so confused by its dense, video-game narrative style that by the last 40 minutes of the film, I’d pretty much lost track of the story.

But what makes “Inception” so fascinating is that it joins a host of groundbreaking movies that have inspired either a generational or critical divide. The contentious reaction to “Inception” has a lot in common with the response to such equally daring films as “Breathless,” “Bonnie and Clyde,” “The Wild Bunch,” “A Clockwork Orange,” “Taxi Driver,” “Reservoir Dogs,” “Pulp Fiction” and “Natural Born Killers,” to name but a few. People either love ‘em or hate ‘em, with young moviegoers usually being the first to wrap them in a firm embrace.

I’m not here to say that it’s time to put “Inception” into the pantheon of great films, since some of the films on that previous list probably don’t belong there either. But they all grabbed us by the collar and didn’t let us go. “Bonnie and Clyde” offers perhaps the most classic example of a generational breakthrough film. It was initially panned by a host of critics, most notably the New York Times’ influential Bosley Crowther, who called the picture a “cheap piece of bald-faced slapstick comedy.”

Time and Newsweek, then important arbiters of taste, panned it too. But something crazy happened. Young moviegoers swooned over it, starting to talk and dress like the characters in the film. Joe Morgenstern, then the Newsweek film critic, famously went back to see the movie a second time with an audience — and came around, recanting his first review with a more enthusiastic one. Before long, Time had put the movie on its cover as a symbol of the new youth culture in action and the Times had put Crowther out to pasture, hiring a younger critic in his place.

There were similar divisions with other films over the years. Many critics gave “Clockwork Orange” the cold shoulder early on. Audiences were often initially repelled by the violence in “The Wild Bunch.” The merits and demerits of “Taxi Driver” were ferociously debated before it settled into its middle age as one of the most admired films in Martin Scorsese’s oeuvre.

Quentin Tarantino’s early movies inspired much wrangling as well. Stacy Sher, who produced “Pulp Fiction,” remembers that audiences early on were bitterly divided. “The perfect example was a test screening that we had in Seattle,” she recalls. “One-third of the audience loved it, one-third hated it and one-third walked out.” The film eventually became a huge hit, but only after it won the Palme d’Or in Cannes and got a host of thumbs ups from various critics.

In the old days, the culture zeitgeist took much longer to coalesce. Now buzz is often instantaneous. “Inception’s” opening weekend was made up of young male zealots and Chris Nolan acolytes. By the time I saw it again last weekend at a local mall, the audience was full of a much broader cross section of moviegoers who simply wanted to find out what the excitement was all about.

In today’s media-saturated culture, a film that polarizes its audience is often a film on its way to hitdom. When people argue vociferously about a new movie, the talk alone is the best possible promotion. If you haven’t seen the movie, you’re on the outside, wanting to get in on the action. When you hear people who care enough about a film to argue about it, you want to see it for yourself so you can decide whether you’re a hater or a lover.

If “Inception” plays especially strongly with a young audience, it’s probably because they instinctively grasp its narrative density best, having grown up playing video games. “When it comes to understanding ‘Inception,’ you’ve got a real advantage if you’re a gamer,” says Henry Jenkins, who’s a professor of communications, journalism and cinematic arts at the University of Southern California. “‘Inception’ is first and foremost a movie about worlds and levels, which is very much the way video games are structured. Games create a sense that we’re a part of the action. Stories aren’t just told to us. We experience them.”

Even though the density of “Inception” can be off-putting to older moviegoers, it’s a delicious challenge for gamers.

“With ‘Inception,’ if you blink or if your mind wanders, you miss it,” says Jenkins. “You’re not sitting passively and sucking it all in. You have to experience it like a puzzle box. It’s designed for us to talk about, to share clues and discuss online, instead of having everything explained to us. Part of the pleasure of the movie is figuring out things that don’t come easily, which is definitely part of the video game culture.”

You could argue that the art-house cinema of the 1960s, especially the great works by Bergman, Godard and Antonioni, inspired the same kinds of pleasures for moviegoers eager to tease out the meanings from their films’ arresting (and often impenetrable) images and symbols. But Jenkins argues that because of today’s huge online social networks, there is a far bigger audience available to engage in debate over a film like “Inception” than ever existed in the ‘60s.

It doesn’t mean everyone is going to adore “Inception.” Nor does it guarantee that the film will stand the test of time. But like all of the other movies that inspired ferocious critical tussles in the past, “Inception” represents something we rarely get in today’s corporate Hollywood. It’s a personal film by a director with a distinctive voice.

Put simply: It’s a movie that matters.


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