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Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:11 pm
by moreno
A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Chabrol's The Ceremony and Haneke's Funny Games come to my mind. And on top of that, both families get murdered!

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:44 am
by Corlyss_D
moreno wrote:A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Two examples are nothing more than two examples, not a trend.

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:21 am
by DavidRoss
Seems to me that classical music in movies is usually associated with the upper classes, not the bourgeoisie.

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:21 am
by moldyoldie
Corlyss_D wrote:
moreno wrote:A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Two examples are nothing more than two examples, not a trend.
Emphatically agreed. More obvious to me was how at one time the guy with lighter hair and complexion was seemingly "always" the good guy when the swarthy, dark-haired fellow was "always" the villain. It's a silly generalization whose conscious practice by commercial filmmakers seems to have ebbed over time...thankfully.

Especially in the '70s following Kubrick's lead, classical music was seemingly "always" used in science fiction films - often, but not always effectively. Zardoz, Soylent Green, and Rollerball come immediately to mind, but I know there were others. I'm thinking the filmmakers felt the music lent a "heaviness" to a film genre which theretofore was rarely taken too seriously by mainstream audiences.

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:01 pm
by moreno
Corlyss_D wrote:
moreno wrote:A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Two examples are nothing more than two examples, not a trend.
When the tantrum is over, maybe you can read my post again.

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:13 pm
by Corlyss_D
moreno wrote:When the tantrum is over, maybe you can read my post again.
Do you want to talk about two movies or a practice. I didn't see either of those movies so I can't comment on them. If you want to talk about a practice, I don't see it based on two movies.

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:38 pm
by DavidRoss
moreno wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:
moreno wrote:A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Two examples are nothing more than two examples, not a trend.
When the tantrum is over, maybe you can read my post again.
Tantrum? WTF?

Re: Classical music as a symbol of bourgeoisie in cinema

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:08 am
by John F
moreno wrote:A thing that I find kind of disturbing is the way to use classical music as a mean of depicting a bourgeois family.
Chabrol's The Ceremony and Haneke's Funny Games come to my mind. And on top of that, both families get murdered!
Your point is? Or is it just that two particular 1990s films rub you the wrong way?