What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

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What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

Post by Jack Kelso » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:56 am

Yes, a little fantasy question---but intriguing nonetheless.

What kind of ensemble would you like to direct?

A world-class orchestra like the Vienna Phil. or the Chicago Symphony? Perhaps a chamber orchestra?

Maybe you'd like to build up a provincial orchestra into a first-rate ensemble (like J. Buck's Bamberger Sinfoniker---or my Mannheimer-National-Theater-Orchester)?

Or maybe as choir director with a largely Renaissance repertoire?

Big symphonies or string serenades, Palestrina or Prokofiev, there is a large choice of challenges with a baton.

Perhaps you have a secret "special project" that no conductor has to date properly realized.....

Some conductors arrange piano compositions for orchestra to increase the ballet repertoire----how would that appeal to you?

I look forward to any responses.....

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Post by RebLem » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:51 am

The idea of taking a second rate orchestra with a board and a union local, however, that is determined to turn it into a world class symphony would appeal to me. Where? Perhaps Houston, though I don't like the city. Calgary, maybe. Or Portland, Oregon. Or something in the Phoenix, Mesa, Tempe Ariz area. This last, I think, is one of my candidates for a community that could have an orchestra come out of nowhere in the next 20 years or so into a major ensemble. Arizona State Univ in Tempe has a 100 member music department and their own record label. I have an LP set from them from 20 years ago of 4 string quartets by Vincent Persichetti by a quartet in residence at the time. The area has a population well over 2 million, and more of those all important gray heads than most communities.

Yes, I have a special project. Not a secret, though. I've been talking about it for a while in this and various other venues--the first integral cycle of Henry Cowell's Hymn and Fuguing Tunes. Not to be done with a symphony orchestra though, as some are for solo instruments, some for full orchestra, various kinds and sizes of ensembles. It would seem that a music festival or a university faculty would be the best ppl to go to for a project like this.
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Post by Ralph » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:04 am

I would love to be music director of the the world's greatest orchestra, the New York Philharmonic. A "Defintely Dittersdorf Festival" would be a high priority.

I would also train my musicians to play while walking and Mahler's First Symphony would be performed at the Ninth Avenue Food Festival ( takes place every May) starting at 38th St. and working up to 57th.

Cup holders would be installed at each seat along with fold-down, airplane-type trays. Snacks and drinks would be purveyed by ushers working the aisles before each piece and between movements.
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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:48 am

Wow! Two really interesting responses that show how alive and kicking classical music is!

I would also tend to want to take over a small-town orchestra (like the ones in Düsseldorf, Essen or Zwickau) and try to build them into great virtuoso ensembles.

But then I'd like to make recordings, if possible. One of them would be a new stereo performance of the "Manfred" music of Schumann. Hermann Scherchen did it decades ago without the speaker and in mono. This music is too delicious to leave sitting on library shelves. I have a complete live performance on tape, from German radio (SWR2), with Gert Albrecht conducting. But the "hammy" speaker detracts too much from the glorious music, relegated to the background. This work needs to be arranged in a suite format: overture, chorus of spirits, Manfred's appeal to Astarte, the walk from the mountain, etc.

There are also some of my favorite neglected symphonies--- like Hindemith's E-Flat (1940) and the two of Kalinikoff.

Then I'd probably arrange Liszt's great Sonata in B-Minor for large orchestra and record it. What a tone-poem that would make!

Some ambitions, huh..?!

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Re: What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

Post by Gary » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:01 am

Jack Kelso wrote:Mannheimer-National-Theater-Orchester
That orchestra from Mozart's time is still around?
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Re: What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:33 am

Gary wrote:
Jack Kelso wrote:Mannheimer-National-Theater-Orchester
That orchestra from Mozart's time is still around?
Yep, and they're darned good, too, Gary. Heidi and I have seen great productions of "Der fliegende Holländer", "La Traviata", "Tosca" and "Madamme Butterfly" in the last months.

Sure, I'd conduct that orchestra, too---if they'd give me the chance! (Ha! FAT chance, eh?)

We live just a few miles from the Mannheimer Oper. ...which reminds me, they start this month in my town with the famous "Schwetzinger Festspiele" and that goes till September. Check it out on the web!

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Post by Gary » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:46 am

Well, then, you might have some competition, because I'd like to conduct them too! :wink: After all, they were once considered "the" premier orchestra. :)

As for the "Schwetzinger Festspiele", I couldn't find any Web site of it that was in English. Incidentally, would you please provide a hyperlink to the Mannheim-National-Theater-Orchester's Web site, that is, if there is one--I couldn't find it?

Thanks.
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Re: What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:10 am

Gary wrote:Well, then, you might have some competition, because I'd like to conduct them too! :wink: After all, they were once considered "the" premier orchestra. :)

As for the "Schwetzinger Festspiele", I couldn't find any Web site of it that was in English. Incidentally, would you please provide a hyperlink to the National-Theater-Orchester's Web site, that is, if there is one--I couldn't find it.

Thanks.
Hi Gary,

I couldn't find an actual url "home" site, much less anything in English....but try this one:

www.comvos.de/presseservice.html - 18k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten

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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:19 am

Sorry, Gary---that one was a bummer. Here's one that at least will show you the program:

www.nationaltheater-mannheim.de/ - 8k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten

I still haven't found anything from them in English!

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Post by Gary » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:26 am

Thanks, Jack!

I'll check it out now.

In the meantime, here's another orchestra question for you to answer.
Jack Kelso wrote:I would also tend to want to take over a small-town orchestra (like the ones in Düsseldorf, Essen or Zwickau) and try to build them into great virtuoso ensembles.
Is the orchestra in Düsseldorf from Schumann's time still in existence?
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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:40 am

Gary wrote:Thanks, Jack!

I'll check it out now.

In the meantime, here's another orchestra question for you to answer.
Jack Kelso wrote:I would also tend to want to take over a small-town orchestra (like the ones in Düsseldorf, Essen or Zwickau) and try to build them into great virtuoso ensembles.
Is the orchestra in Düsseldorf from Schumann's time still in existence?
I believe so---at least it was some twenty years or so ago when they recorded Schumann's oratorio, "Das Paradies und die Peri". I transferred the records onto tape (before I wore them out!).

I don't think the Düsseldorfer Sinfoniker (?) makes very many recordings though....but, like Cologne (Köln) and, of course, Zwickau, they have this thing with Schumann......

Did you read conductor Gabriel Feltz: Brahms' Violin Concerto and Schumann's Third Symphony? Heidi and I attended that one: EXCELLENT!

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If I were a conductor...

Post by PJME » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:43 am

If I were a conductor ...I would choose "Alle menschen werden Brueder" as motto. I would tour the world auf Fluegeln des Gesanges , create a poly-rythmic,,pentatonic,atonal multi-national chorus and orchestra that would prove that music is the food for love. We might consider playing Jack's orchestral version of Liszt's pianosonata (only if it is really good) - the rest of the programs would consist of newly discovered and forgotten masterpieces from Albania, Iceland, Brazil and Swaziland.
Struck by divine inspiration the people who invented Muzak would stop producing it and repent openly.

PS and we would enjoy playing in Duesseldorf's new Tonhalle !
http://www.duesseldorf.de/kultur/tonhalle/ I visited the site (NRW Forum - on the banks of the Rhine- recently) The 1928 former planetarium has been transformed into a modern concerthall.
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Post by val » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:46 am

My choice would be the Concertgebow Amsterdam. To play Bruckner's 9 Symphonies.

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Post by Gary » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:47 am

Jack Kelso wrote: Did you read conductor Gabriel Feltz: Brahms' Violin Concerto and Schumann's Third Symphony? Heidi and I attended that one: EXCELLENT!

Jack

I'm not familiar with that name. Are you suggesting that I read his book or attend his concerts? I'm a little confused by the words that are in bold (above).
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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:57 am

Gary wrote:
Jack Kelso wrote: Did you read conductor Gabriel Feltz: Brahms' Violin Concerto and Schumann's Third Symphony? Heidi and I attended that one: EXCELLENT!

Jack

I'm not familiar with that name. Are you suggesting that I read his book or attend his concerts? I'm a little confused by the words that are in bold (above).
Sorry, Gary---I wasn't too clear on that. I was referring to a concert that was listed in the Mannheimer Nationaltheater program I sent you. It took place just a couple of weeks ago.

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Post by Gary » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:59 am

Jack Kelso wrote:
Sorry, Gary---I wasn't too clear on that. I was referring to a concert that was listed in the Mannheimer Nationaltheater program I sent you. It took place just a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, okay. No problem.
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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:07 am

val wrote:My choice would be the Concertgebow Amsterdam. To play Bruckner's 9 Symphonies.
I'd buy your Bruckner set, Val. I think you would have good thoughts with these works. Up to now no one conductor does all 9 (or 11) exactly to my taste.

When I conduct the Düsseldorfer Sinfoniker in the Schumann cycle I'll throw in the "Zwickauer-Sinfonie" to make an even five! Maybe I could even get you to like nos. 3 and 4! But before that miracle takes place, try Karajan for the Third and Klemperer for the Fourth.

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Post by val » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:12 am

Jack Kelso

When I conduct the Düsseldorfer Sinfoniker in the Schumann cycle I'll throw in the "Zwickauer-Sinfonie" to make an even five! Maybe I could even get you to like nos. 3 and 4! But before that miracle takes place, try Karajan for the Third and Klemperer for the Fourth.

I prefer Sawallisch in the first three, and Cantelli in the fourth. But I promise you one thing: give me the Staatskapelle Dresden and I will record 2 CD, just for you:

1. Schumann: First Symphony / Manfred Overture / Overture, Scherzo and Finale.

2. Schumann: 2nd Symphony / Liszt: Heroide Funebre.

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Post by rogch » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:00 am

I would like to work on a daily basis with a good, bot not too famous orchestra and do guest-conducting with the "dinosaurs" (Berlin, Vienna, New York etc.) What would i play? I am afraid i would be tempted into a Bruckner cycle, even though that is very risky business. The competition is stiff and audiences and critics will compare you to some of the greatest recordings of all time. Other projects? If i ever got my hands on the Vienna Philharmonic i would at once try to make a landmark recording of Sibelius' Leminkäinen Suite. Rebel's Les Elements should definitely be played on modern instruments, but i would rather trust the Concertgebouw to do that recording.

I would also try to promote some composers that do not get the attention they deserve. If i played a symphony by Mozart in concert i would definitely couple it with a symphony by Berwald. And always put in a modern piece as an unannounced bonus to give the audience a nice surprice.
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Re: What "if" you were a conductor.....?!

Post by Corlyss_D » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:18 pm

Jack Kelso wrote:Yes, a little fantasy question---but intriguing nonetheless.

What kind of ensemble would you like to direct?
I'd like to be the director of a small medieval band. Acutally I'd like to be Sylvain Bergeron of La Nef or one of the Caffagni sisters of La Reverdie
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Post by Jack Kelso » Mon May 01, 2006 8:05 am

Some decades back, when LP's were still in, there were quite a lot of recordings of collections of overtures, by Handel, Beethoven, Weber, Mendelssohn, "Romantic Opera Overtures", etc. Many have been reissued on CD's. I recently bought a fine collection of the Spohr overtures.

I'd definitely love to do a collection of overtures by Heinrich Marschner. I have a few from radio, and there are some real gems among them---and they're dressed in fine orchestral garb, not too gaudy but lyrical and sparkling, a bit lighter than Weber. Certainly Marschner had operas produced in Mannheim, so they know him---!

Ah, yes. That gorgeous orchestra! "Der Vampyr", "Hans Heiling", "Der Templer und die Jüdin".... But---would they sound so "gorgeous" under MY baton..?!?

Overtures and tone-poems are fun to conduct at home (when the neighbors are away) and I can just let myself go! Just as much joy as conducting a symphony--in their own way. 'Don't know if I'd like to be an opera conductor, though----too many stops and starts!

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