O alter Duft aus Maerchenzeit

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O alter Duft aus Maerchenzeit

Post by jbuck919 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:59 am

All my life I've had the problem, and believe me it can be a problem, of tunes running through my head beyond my control. When I had to do the chorus at my school two years ago, and had to use some very basic music because they were just five little girls, I would have those insipid tunes running through my head all night. I can even think and dream over them--it's as though I had two brains in this manner. The same thing happened when I was doing church music, except that I was lucky enough that the quality of the anthems the choir sang was usually at least tolerable.

Now for some strange reason I'm going all the way back to Silver Burdett, and for some reason can't get "Erie Canal" out of my head. It's not a serious problem, but something I wonder about and wish I could control better. I'd lay you odds that Dave Stybr has the same situation, but does anyone else?

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Post by diegobueno » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:22 am

This is a curse I've put on you, John. You are doomed to hear "Erie Canal" in your head for all eternity UNLESS

you listen to Appalachian Spring every day for a month, or until you acknowledge it to be a masterpiece.

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Re: O alter Duft aus Maerchenzeit

Post by MaestroDJS » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:41 am

jbuck919 wrote:I'd lay you odds that Dave Stybr has the same situation, but does anyone else?
Absolutely. This morning for some reason Shostakovich's Tahiti Trot -- as performed by Ernie Kovacs and the Nairobi Trio -- was going through my mind. Must be time for tea. :)

Will I completely ruin John's day if I mention that now "Sixteen Tons" is going through my mind in perfect counterpoint with "Erie Canal"? Can't you just hear it? :)

Sopranos and Altos:
You load sixteen tons, and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go;
I owe my soul to the company store...
Tenors and Basses:
I’ve got a mule and her name is Sal.
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
She’s a good worker and a good old pal.
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
Dave

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PS. Supposedly the young Dmitri Shostakovich had a reputation for his sight-reading skills and musical memory. In 1928, the conductor Nikolai Malko made a bet with Shostakovich that he could not orchestrate Vincent Youmans' Tea for Two in less than an hour. Shostakovich accepted the challenge and finished his arrangement, which he titled Tahiti Trot, in 40 minutes! It became a popular hit with dance bands, and also appeared in his ballet The Age of Gold.

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Post by jbuck919 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:00 pm

diegobueno wrote: you listen to Appalachian Spring every day for a month,
I already did that years ago. It's called morning rush hour driving in the Baltimore/Washington area. Usually came on between William Tell and Dona Dianna.

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Re: O alter Duft aus Maerchenzeit

Post by jbuck919 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:08 pm

MaestroDJS wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:I'd lay you odds that Dave Stybr has the same situation, but does anyone else?
Absolutely. This morning for some reason Shostakovich's Tahiti Trot -- as performed by Ernie Kovacs and the Nairobi Trio -- was going through my mind. Must be time for tea. :)

Will I completely ruin John's day if I mention that now "Sixteen Tons" is going through my mind in perfect counterpoint with "Erie Canal"? Can't you just hear it? :)

Sopranos and Altos:
You load sixteen tons, and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go;
I owe my soul to the company store...
Tenors and Basses:
I’ve got a mule and her name is Sal.
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
She’s a good worker and a good old pal.
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
Dave


You are probably familiar with the old British radio show "My Music." Of course, everyone knows that Swanee River and Humoreske can be sung at the same time (I mean, harmoniously), but some listener wrote in that you can also sing K-K-K -Katie along with them. Sure enough, three of the gents stood up and with Steve Race accompanying, did exactly that.

I miss that show and My Word very much.

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Post by Ralph » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:33 pm

Not an uncommon syndrome, John. As I launched into my kung pao scallops last night the strains of Dittersdorf's Harp Concerto blotted out the background Chinese music. And often it's hard to focus when I'm teaching as Mahler's Ninth starts and goes right through to the tremulous conclusion.

I have heard that when a tune can't be banished by mere thought, wetting a finger and putting it in a nearby light socket almost always works.
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Post by Haydnseek » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:45 pm

The long-running comedy panel game show I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue hosted by musician Humphrey Lyttelton on BBC Radio frequently included a game called One Song to the Tune of Another which had the panelists sing the lyrics of one song to the melody of another. It was usually hilarious.

I have tunes in my head most of the time. With aging these seldom make it too difficult to sleep as they used to. The last time this happened I think it was "Ferry 'Cross the Mersey" by Gerry and the Pacemakers that kept me up much of the night.
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Post by Lark Ascending » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:07 pm

I sometimes wake up with some tune or other running through my head. Schubert's Marche Militaire is a favourite, and one morning it was the jig from Holst's St Paul Suite - I was practically jigging on the way to work which must have made an alarming sight for passing traffic :).
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Post by val » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:06 am

"O alter Duft aus Märchenzeit":

This one deserves to be in everybody's mind. The most beautiful of the songs of Pierrot Lunaire.

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Post by pizza » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:55 am

Just think -- when a tune ran through Gershwin's head he wrote it down and converted it to cash! 8)

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Post by MaestroDJS » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:23 am

pizza wrote:Just think -- when a tune ran through Gershwin's head he wrote it down and converted it to cash! 8)
I do that a fair amount myself, most recently last night at Northwestern University in Evanston, IL. Not nearly to the same extent as Gershwin of course, but it sure helps subsidize my voracious appetite for CDs and 2nd-hand LPs. :)

(Come to think of it, Ravel and Stravinsky didn't do it nearly to the same extent as Gershwin either, if stories are to be believed. ;) )
val wrote:"O alter Duft aus Märchenzeit":

This one deserves to be in everybody's mind. The most beautiful of the songs of Pierrot Lunaire.
Agreed. In fact, after my concert last night, we cajoled members of the audience to sing it in counterpoint with another sprightly tune.

Sopranos and Altos:
O alter Duft aus Märchenzeit,
Berauschest wieder meine Sinne;
Ein närrisch Heer von Schelmerein
Durchschwirrt die leichte Luft.
Tenors and Basses:
Blaues Gras
Scheint auf mich.
Nichts als blaues Gras
Sehe ich.
Dave

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Re: O alter Duft aus Maerchenzeit

Post by jserraglio » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:52 pm

jbuck919 wrote:All my life I've had the problem, and believe me it can be a problem, of tunes running through my head beyond my control.
Yes, I have this condition, only my headtunes all sound off-key.

One cure for it, a shot of Jack the Giant Killer a la Blanche Dubois, is splendid, it works if you keep trying.

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Post by jbuck919 » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:08 am

Ok, folks, this is getting really weird now. This morning (I went on post to perform various chores), I could have sworn I heard a trumpeter (not a bugler--I know the difference) rehearsing bugle calls at the other end of post. I know all the bugle callse and I thought, well, as long as he's not playing "Retreat" or "Call to the Colors" this early in the days, it's ok. It was so uncanny that I had to open my window to make sure it was not real. Later in the day I heard Tea for Two played on a xylophone. Of course they ended at the end of the second phrase and kept repeating it, because that is the only part I know. Now I'm listening to a mixed chorus singing Adeste Fideles in unison unaccompanied (I can even tell they're singing it in Latin). And I've skipped a couple because I've forgotten the details, but one was a men's chorus performing something a la Mitch Miller.

I am not delusional, because I know these things are not real, but I have never experienced the sense of the music coming into my ears from a distance before. The tunes literally sound like that, as opposed to being merely in my head, and literally sound they have these specific and different performing forces. They repeat over and over again.
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Post by jserraglio » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:12 am

Well, if you ever figure out how you do it, let the rest of us in on it. I could save a lot of money on CDs that way.

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