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Post by Ted » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:07 am

Support for Bush on Iraq hits new low

Reuters NBC News/Wall Street Journal

December 14, 2006 - 4:14PM

Less than one in four Americans approves of President George W Bush's handling of the Iraq war, according to a new poll.

The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll survery found only 23 per cent backed Bush's Iraq strategy, an 11-point drop since the previous NBC/Journal poll in late October and Bush's lowest mark on the question in this survey.

Nearly seven in 10 respondents said they felt less confident the war would come to a successful conclusion, NBC said.

Fifty-three per cent said the United States did not have an obligation to killed or wounded American soldiers to remain in Iraq.

Bush's overall job approval rating was at 34 per cent, the lowest level for the president in this poll, NBC said.

Bush is considering options for changing course in Iraq after the bipartisan Iraq Study Group offered dozens of recommendations last week.

Vowing he would not be rushed into a decision, Bush has put off until next month announcing any change in Iraq policy.

The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found only 21 per cent of Americans wanted Bush to set the policy, while 59 per cent wanted the incoming

Democratic-led Congress to do so.

Democrats recaptured control of Congress in the November midterm elections from Bush's Republicans largely on voter frustration over the situation in Iraq.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released yesterday showed seven in 10 disapproved of Bush's handling of Iraq and 61 percent said the war was not worth fighting.

In a USA Today/Gallup survey, more than half the respondents, or 55 per cent, said they wanted most US troops withdrawn from Iraq within a year.
Bush has rejected setting a timetable for removing US troops from Iraq.
The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll of 1,006 adults was conducted from Friday to Monday and had a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

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Post by Sapphire » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:30 pm

Bush's Iraq Policy: A Dead Parrot?

  • 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

    'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
    'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
    'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

    THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
For anyone who wants to see the original sketch, try this and click on "Dead Parrot".

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/DreadDLord ... f-5bsPvjPa


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Post by Ralph » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:18 pm

Saphire wrote:Bush's Iraq Policy: A Dead Parrot?

  • 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

    'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
    'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
    'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

    THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
For anyone who wants to see the original sketch, try this and click on "Dead Parrot".

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/DreadDLord ... f-5bsPvjPa


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That's one of my favorites! I was a Python fan from the start.
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Post by Ted » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:39 pm

This and "Two Sheds Jackson" are my all time Python bits

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Post by Sapphire » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:45 pm

Ted

What about "Ministry of Silly Walks". It's on that link. That has got to be one of the funniest ever. Perhaps as a Brit it seems funnier. I can picture those "corridors of power" in Whitehall.

In "Life of Brian" there were so many sketches that were too funny for words. Do you remember the name of the well-endowed Roman Centurion? I won't mention it here. :roll: I just roll over at the thought of it. What about the incident when Brian's mother comes flying out of her hovel and shrieks: "He's not Jesus; he's just a naughty boy". I am now on the floor. I had better stop.


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Post by Ted » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:23 pm

Saphire Wrote:
Perhaps as a Brit it seems funnier
Not as far as this Yank is concerned—it’s funny period
Forgot to mention “Abuse”
Great Link Saph

BTW Do you like “Extras”

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Post by Brendan » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:01 pm

Tony Hancock's original Dead Turtle sketch with Sid James was actually a lot better, IMHO. But most of Python is priceless - the idea of an ex-leper complaining about being healed still cracks me up just thinking about it, let alone the final song. Cannot fail to smile at Always Look on the Bright Side of Life.

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Post by Sapphire » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:40 am

Some more Monty Python

1.video sketches:

http://hightechnews.info/2006/11/30/59- ... ty-python/

This has 59 videos including the following classics:
  • 1. “Hitler in Britain”
    9. “Most Awful Family in Britain”
    10. “Aussie Hunters”
    19. "Silly Job Interview"
    23. “The Bishop”
    27. “Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson”
    34. “Tchaikovsky’s Piano Concert No 1”
2. The following link gives sketches for all/most of the episodes and the movies:

http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/

Under “Life of Brian”, see:

scene 5: “The ex-leper”

scene 25 : “The crowd laughs at Biggus’ thspeech”. Remember that Pontius Pilate (Michael Palin) had a bad lispth)



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Post by miranda » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:54 pm

I've been a Python fan since I was in the seventh grade.

One of my favorite skits is the Spanish Inquisition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQI0Xm29To

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F56ZZzz4meU
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Post by Sapphire » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:19 am

Miranda: Oh, yes , the Spanish Inquisition. Thanks for that, another real gem.

I think that this Python material is some of the best ever comedy of any nationality. Much of the TV stuff (1969-74) was, of course, satire basically on the British way of life, and therefore may not have wider appeal. However, the movies were more cosmopolitan. I guess a lot of folk who have never seen any of this before wouldn't find it funny at all, as it seems such an alien form of humour.

Not having seen any of it for a while, it just gets funnier and funnier. Just look at the "Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No 1", or the "Hitler in Britain" one. The originality of ideas was astonishing, the sketches and the acting all first rate. The part of the "dead parrot" sketch I quoted above is as good a piece of poetry as anything written by Shakespeare, and spoken in one of John Cleese's funny accents is magic. The idea of Hitler and Himmler, having escaped Germany at the end of WWII, and living in a cheap British bed and breakfast joint, whilst organising a Nationalist Party revival in the 1960s, is just too funny for words. Look at "Hitler's" arm waving and gobble-de-gook text in his rantings from the balcony. As for the houdini-like version of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No 1, well that's instant knock-out funny material.

I don't know if you are aware that John Cleese went on later to appear in, and co-write, another very famous TV comedy series called "Fawlty Towers". That was hugely funny. If you don't know it, I can thoroughly recommend it, as it's probably on DVD. It's all about a very stroppy hotel owner/manager, Basil Fawlty, in coastal resort Torquay, England - hence "Fawlty Towers", the name of the hotel - where he insults his guests something rotten. It has everything: funny walks, funny accents, Basil ranting and raving, a long-suffering wife, a stupid Spanish waiter called Manuel whose English is awful and who keeps getting hit by Basil. The single most funny incident in my view was when Basil's car wouldn't start one day, and he went into in a complete rage on the hotel drive thrashing the car insanely with a long branch of a tree.

Another famous character, Michael Palin (Pontius Pilate), went on to produce some excellent, straight, TV documentary, series about world travel (Pole to Pole, Sahara, etc). He has a magnetic charm about him, and seemed to be recognised in many far-off places, even many years after Python. I recall one episode when he was wandering around in Nepal (or wherever), and some local tribesman happened to spot him and waived and shouted something or other relating to one of the Python sketches.


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Post by RebLem » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:18 am

Saphire wrote:Ted

What about "Ministry of Silly Walks". It's on that link. That has got to be one of the funniest ever. Perhaps as a Brit it seems funnier. I can picture those "corridors of power" in Whitehall.

In "Life of Brian" there were so many sketches that were too funny for words. Do you remember the name of the well-endowed Roman Centurion? I won't mention it here. :roll: I just roll over at the thought of it. What about the incident when Brian's mother comes flying out of her hovel and shrieks: "He's not Jesus; he's just a naughty boy". I am now on the floor. I had better stop.
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I must say I am not a Monty Python fan generally, but The Life of Brian was a masterpiece. I view them in the same way I look at the Illinois poet/lawyer (Clarence Darrow's law partner, in fact) Edgar Les Masters. He wrote 45 books of poetry, 44 of which are pretty much eminently forgettable. The one masterpiece, The Spoon River Anthology, was the 17th of them.

My favorite scene from The Life of Brian was one where Brian was summoned by an adoring crowd to the second floor balcony in a building where he was staying. He tells them, "You must learn to think for yourselves!" The crowd responds by chanting, in unison, "We must learn to think for ourselves!" Absolutely rolling over funny.
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Post by miranda » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:03 am

Monty Python, you all were the greatest.

Michael Palin was menacing and memorable in the fantastic movie Brazil, directed by another Python alumnus, Terry Gilliam (whose animated bits that preceded every Python episode I also always looked forward to.) He's an undderrated actor with a real range; The Criterion edition of Brazil is one of the few films I own on DVD.
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Post by RebLem » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:15 pm

miranda wrote:Monty Python, you all were the greatest.

Michael Palin was menacing and memorable in the fantastic movie Brazil, directed by another Python alumnus, Terry Gilliam (whose animated bits that preceded every Python episode I also always looked forward to.) He's an undderrated actor with a real range; The Criterion edition of Brazil is one of the few films I own on DVD.
And Brazil was the inspiration for a short lived TV series called Max Headroom, short lived, apparently because I was one of the few people who liked it.
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Post by Hexameron » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:23 pm

Saphire wrote:Under “Life of Brian”, see:

scene 5: “The ex-leper”

scene 25 : “The crowd laughs at Biggus’ thspeech”. Remember that Pontius Pilate (Michael Palin) had a bad lispth)
This one is actually my favorite scene.

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