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living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Fri May 28, 2010 7:14 pm

Pity his threads are still visible. Really, he really is just a spammer of Shmuley Boteach's judeofascist teachings.

RebLem · Post by **RebLem** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:04 am

Sorry, no. I do not use the foes feature. I want to know what everyone is saying.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Sat May 29, 2010 5:18 am

Doesn't work.

Other people use the Quote feature and I still see his garbage and that of the Conformist Sheep anyway.

absinthe · Post by **absinthe** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:20 am

It's getting to the stage where someone might as well PM Lance,
asking him to change the software so the default setting is
"everyone = foe".

Then people choose the "friends" whose posts they want to read.

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sat May 29, 2010 2:17 pm

absinthe wrote:It's getting to the stage where someone might as well PM Lance,
asking him to change the software so the default setting is
"everyone = foe".

Then people choose the "friends" whose posts they want to read.

Yep, I truly wonder how "visitors" to this Site see us...

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:31 pm

I wish this "anti" stuff would stop -- I mean the threads directed against a particular member.

If you don't like his stuff, don't reply to it. The replying encourages it and increases it. If you reply less (or not at all) -- sure, It'll still go on, but it won't be as prominent.

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:16 pm

Chalkperson wrote: Yep, I truly wonder how "visitors" to this Site see us...

This is my chief concern as well, as a manifestation of the health of the board. In case anyone has not noticed, the level of posting is way down in every sense, and a number of members who used to make interesting posts on the Pub are pretty scarce these days. However, the music boards still seems healthy, and that is the main point of the site.

piston · Post by **piston** » Sat May 29, 2010 6:24 pm

Unfortunately, keeping the Pub a "healthy" place where to socialize is a balancing act nobody really can control. I have tried to divert attention away from political or religious combativeness but the fact remains that non-controversial topics do not get much attention. In this sense, this virtual Pub can never be like a real one where folks seek entertainment, not conflict. But what's the point of repeating the same thing numerous times when it does not make a difference!

piston · Post by **piston** » Sat May 29, 2010 6:27 pm

We are all sinners in this CMG Pub passion play! Controversy, even despicable controversy, draws more attention!!!

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

piston · Post by **piston** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:10 pm

ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE, we're not quite there ... yet!:

piston · Post by **piston** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:14 pm

Moral of this video? The individualists are staying far away from that drunk girl and the communitarians are stepping in with a helping hand...

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sat May 29, 2010 11:36 pm

What drives people away from this site is the number of distasteful threads that get no response --when these threads fill up the view of the Pub, the default assumption is the community's tacit complicty in promoting those lies. No need to reply to the threads, though. Challenge those views in a thread of your own

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sat May 29, 2010 11:59 pm

piston wrote:ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE, we're not quite there ... yet!:

Hey, I'm not sure she was drunk!
Perhaps she's just a pound or two overweight and a little uncoordinated.

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sat May 29, 2010 11:59 pm

piston wrote:

P.S. I was kinda like that the other nite, without a drop of alcohol.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:14 am

MarkC wrote:
piston wrote:
P.S. I was kinda like that the other nite, without a drop of alcohol.

That explains a lot

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:16 am

MarkC wrote: If you don't like his stuff, don't reply to it. The replying encourages it and increases it. If you reply less (or not at all) -- sure, It'll still go on, but it won't be as prominent.

Pretty much ignored his posts over the long haul 'til they started driving newcomers and veterans off the board. A friend mine declined an invitation to this "hate-mongering" forum.

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:23 am

living_stradivarius wrote:......A friend mine declined an invitation to this "hate-mongering" forum.

One member makes it a "hate-mongering forum"?

In a way I can't even relate to what y'all are saying, because I barely notice those posts. My eyes just sort of automatically skip over them. For all intents and purposes I don't see most of them.

Of course it helps to be at the point where you don't see too well.

But seriously folks.......it is that hard to just skip over stuff -- quickly and sort of automatically? It's a practice that became second nature to me pretty immediately on the internet -- and I thought it did for most people.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:30 am

MarkC wrote:
living_stradivarius wrote:......A friend mine declined an invitation to this "hate-mongering" forum.
One member makes it a "hate-mongering forum"?

In a way I can't even relate to what y'all are saying, because I barely notice those posts. My eyes just sort of automatically skip over them. For all intents and purposes I don't see most of them.

Of course it helps to be at the point where you don't see too well.

But seriously folks.......it is that hard to just skip over stuff -- quickly and sort of automatically? It's a practice that became second nature to me pretty immediately on the internet -- and I thought it did for most people.

All this coming from someone who replies to him on a regular basis. Hey, don't stop for my sake, you do quite well at monopolizing his attention. Plenty of Saul-MarkC dialogues can be found around here.

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:34 am

living_stradivarius wrote:......All this coming from someone who replies to him on a regular basis......

RARELY

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 1:56 am

It's ok, no need to be modest, thanks for doing us the favor

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sun May 30, 2010 2:11 am

MarkC wrote:
living_stradivarius wrote:......All this coming from someone who replies to him on a regular basis......
RARELY

No, quite often...

living_stradivarius wrote:What drives people away from this site is the number of distasteful threads that get no response --when these threads fill up the view of the Pub, the default assumption is the community's tacit complicty in promoting those lies.

Absolutely correct...

living_stradivarius wrote:A friend mine declined an invitation to this "hate-mongering" forum.

Unfortunately, i'm not surprised...

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 3:12 am

Chalkperson wrote: No, quite often....

We must disagree on our concepts here.

One time, it is said, Reggie Jackson and Mickey Rivers (baseball players) got into some stupid argument, wherein Reggie felt compelled to say, "Why am I even talking to an idiot like you? My IQ is 160."
Rivers said, "Out of what, a thousand?"

If I've replied to 10 or 15 of his posts out of 1000, is that "often"?

(I can't believe we're arguing about this.)

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sun May 30, 2010 3:55 am

MarkC wrote:(I can't believe we're arguing about this.)

We are not arguing, merely disputing facts...

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 5:31 am

MarkC wrote:
Chalkperson wrote: No, quite often....
We must disagree on our concepts here.

One time, it is said, Reggie Jackson and Mickey Rivers (baseball players) got into some stupid argument, wherein Reggie felt compelled to say, "Why am I even talking to an idiot like you? My IQ is 160."
Rivers said, "Out of what, a thousand?"

If I've replied to 10 or 15 of his posts out of 1000, is that "often"?

(I can't believe we're arguing about this.)

End of argument:
http://classicalmusicguide.com/viewtopi ... 22#p363522

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:06 am

OK, that's ONE.

You need to find a bunch more before you're right.

And before you go and do all that work, be forewarned: For every one you find that I replied to, I'd be able to find a hundred that I didn't!

P.S. I'm not stupid enough to do that work though.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:11 pm

MarkC wrote: It's a practice that became second nature to me pretty immediately on the internet -- and I thought it did for most people.

One example (and a pretty stark one too - was that 3 replies in a row?) was enough to show you ain't any more "immune" to it than the rest of us

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sun May 30, 2010 2:32 pm

MarkC wrote:OK, that's ONE.

You need to find a bunch more before you're right.

But, Strad and I are using a more realistic method of calculation, using the number of posts in which someone actually agrees with what Saul is saying you come out on top, and given the small number of posts that signify agreement with him, I think that "regular basis" definitely applies...

RebLem · Post by **RebLem** » Sun May 30, 2010 7:17 pm

"Hate mongering?" One member? Saul?

Well, in the last few days, one member who shall remain nameless, at least for the time being, has sent me several PMs with subject lines like You Scum and GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE, and it wasn't Saul.

piston · Post by **piston** » Sun May 30, 2010 7:58 pm

The closing moments of a hate-filled conflict are never pretty but it still does not mean that the conflict originated when an individual finally crossed the line.

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 10:40 pm

BTW........I notice that Saul admirably is staying away from this thread.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 10:51 pm

MarkC wrote:BTW........I notice that Saul admirably is staying away from this thread.

Defending him yet again...
Actually he posted a reply to this thread as "Saulsmusic" a few hours ago. The post has been deleted...

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Sun May 30, 2010 10:58 pm

living_stradivarius wrote:Defending him yet again......

You want to paint people as all good or all bad?

I don't believe in being extreme. Especially when it's wrong.

And besides, I'm not "defending" or "offending." I'm just pointing out what I'm observing.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:48 pm

MarkC wrote:I'm just pointing out what I'm observing.

Same

MarkC · Post by **MarkC** » Mon May 31, 2010 2:17 am

living_stradivarius wrote:
MarkC wrote:I'm just pointing out what I'm observing.
Same

Yes, but one of us is being scientific, and the other isn't.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Mon May 31, 2010 4:11 am

MarkC wrote:
living_stradivarius wrote:
MarkC wrote:I'm just pointing out what I'm observing.
Same
Yes, but one of us is being scientific, and the other isn't.

In reference to your analogy, fudging the IQ scale to meet one's whim isn't scientific

The fact remains -- you have indeed encouraged and affirmed his posts.

HoustonDavid · Post by **HoustonDavid** » Mon May 31, 2010 9:52 am

I breathed a heavy sigh of relief this morning when I noticed two names posting on
threads this morning - Agnes Selby and Teresa Brandt (Teresa B) - and didn't notice
[theonewhosenameshallnotbeposted]. I noticed Agnes had posted while I was away,
but I was delighted to see Teresa's name appear, if only once. Welcome back to both
of you, you have been missed.

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Mon May 31, 2010 10:05 am

HoustonDavid wrote:I breathed a heavy sigh of relied this morning when I noticed two names posting on
threads this morning - Agnes Selby and Teresa Brandt (Teresa B) - and didn't notice
[theonewhosenameshallnotbeposted].

Exactly what is this guy saying?

HoustonDavid · Post by **HoustonDavid** » Mon May 31, 2010 11:01 am

John, does my edit make it clearer? Sorry for my morning sticky fingered typing, but I'm
glad to see those two names back in the Pub again. We need some more to return.

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Mon May 31, 2010 1:40 pm

I heard a rumor that [theonewhosenameshallnotbeposted] may be the victim of an Extraordinary Rendition, and has been moved to CMG's Black Site at an undisclosed location...well, we can always hope, right...

Chosen Barley · Post by **Chosen Barley** » Mon May 31, 2010 1:56 pm

Trying to discuss controversial or political topics with people over the internet is going to hurt feelings and cause misunderstanding (or real understanding, which might be even worse). It is like a normally-clothed non-Moslem trying to deal with a Moslem woman in the top-to-bottom style of burka. Even worse, actually - at least if you're talking with the burka-clad woman you can hear her voice. For us, it's letters on a screen. No cues, no hints of anything real. Our bodies are us; seeing bodies & faces matters.

How much do you want to bet that if we were all in the same room together, and we knew everyone else's real name & address to boot, there's less likelihood anyone would feel comfortable saying mean things in the first place?

In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Mon May 31, 2010 1:56 pm

HoustonDavid wrote:John, does my edit make it clearer? Sorry for my morning sticky fingered typing, but I'm
glad to see those two names back in the Pub again. We need some more to return.

I meant "What is Porky saying?" "That's all folks" or "That's [insert forbidden name], folks"? Sort of a joke, you see. The Loony Tunes association is gravy.

absinthe · Post by **absinthe** » Mon May 31, 2010 2:08 pm

Chosen Barley wrote: In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.

Blimey! That would make ones eyes water, I bet.

piston · Post by **piston** » Mon May 31, 2010 3:30 pm

Chosen Barley wrote:Trying to discuss controversial or political topics with people over the internet is going to hurt feelings and cause misunderstanding (or real understanding, which might be even worse). It is like a normally-clothed non-Moslem trying to deal with a Moslem woman in the top-to-bottom style of burka. Even worse, actually - at least if you're talking with the burka-clad woman you can hear her voice. For us, it's letters on a screen. No cues, no hints of anything real. Our bodies are us; seeing bodies & faces matters.

How much do you want to bet that if we were all in the same room together, and we knew everyone else's real name & address to boot, there's less likelihood anyone would feel comfortable saying mean things in the first place?

In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.

In agreement with this whole message. Indeed, when people know that they will eventually converge in a shared physical environment, most of them completely avoid controversy on facebook, even though (or perhaps because) they are closely affiliated. But, now that I am a grandparent, it is funny on occasion to watch a young teenager challenge his mother on facebook.

Teresa B · Post by **Teresa B** » Mon May 31, 2010 6:35 pm

HoustonDavid wrote:I breathed a heavy sigh of relief this morning when I noticed two names posting on
threads this morning - Agnes Selby and Teresa Brandt (Teresa B) - and didn't notice
[theonewhosenameshallnotbeposted]. I noticed Agnes had posted while I was away,
but I was delighted to see Teresa's name appear, if only once. Welcome back to both
of you, you have been missed.

Hi David, thanks for the nice words and the welcome!

Teresa

HoustonDavid · Post by **HoustonDavid** » Mon May 31, 2010 8:11 pm

absinthe wrote:Blimey! That would make ones eyes water, I bet.

It completely depends upon which way the pineapple is inserted.

Werner · Post by **Werner** » Mon May 31, 2010 11:06 pm

I'm happy to join in the "welcome back" to Teresa and Agnes - i believe Teresa has been gone a bit longer.

I've seen no problems on the Cub or elsewhere attributable to these two ladies. That does not apply to much of what I've seen on the Pub - one reason I have treated the site with one of Sarah Palin's favorite principles - ABSTINENCE.

Chosen Barley · Post by **Chosen Barley** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:47 am

Chosen Barley wrote: In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.

I can't believe I posted what I did, above!

I did not mean it the way it came out, Reblem! I am so sorry. I meant that if I was giving someone a hard time, I'd have used the real word. I did not mean that you deserved to be spoken to in that way; I don't think that.

Please accept my sincere apology and I will measure-twice-cut-once before I hit the SUBMIT button. I was out in the sun for too long. That, or eating green potatoes from last year's crop.

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:03 pm

Chosen Barley wrote:
Chosen Barley wrote: In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.
I can't believe I posted what I did, above! I did not mean it the way it came out, Reblem! I am so sorry. I meant that if I was giving someone a hard time, I'd have used the real word. I did not mean that you deserved to be spoken to in that way; I don't think that.

Please accept my sincere apology and I will measure-twice-cut-once before I hit the SUBMIT button. I was out in the sun for too long. That, or eating green potatoes from last year's crop.

If I understand the usage of the chiefly British "frig" correctly, it is not much in the way of a euphemism or mitigation. However, the meaning is not exactly the same as the word I assume Chosen Barley had in mind, and the subtle difference does present interesting possibilities for giving nuance to the intent of the expression.

RebLem · Post by **RebLem** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:52 am

jbuck919 wrote:
Chosen Barley wrote:
Chosen Barley wrote: In any case, "GO FRIG YOURSELF WITH A PINEAPPLE" produced much laughter in my household... Reblem, did your correspondent really say "frig"? Just asking. I'd have used a better word. But that's just me.
I can't believe I posted what I did, above! I did not mean it the way it came out, Reblem! I am so sorry. I meant that if I was giving someone a hard time, I'd have used the real word. I did not mean that you deserved to be spoken to in that way; I don't think that.

Please accept my sincere apology and I will measure-twice-cut-once before I hit the SUBMIT button. I was out in the sun for too long. That, or eating green potatoes from last year's crop.
If I understand the usage of the chiefly British "frig" correctly, it is not much in the way of a euphemism or mitigation. However, the meaning is not exactly the same as the word I assume Chosen Barley had in mind, and the subtle difference does present interesting possibilities for giving nuance to the intent of the expression.

I am astonished. I never took any offense @ what Chosen Barley wrote. And I did understand that Chosen Barley meant no insult to me. "Frig" is, I have always assumed, indeed a euphemism, and it does not refer to refrigeration, but to sexual intercourse or a, uhmm, substitute for same.

living_stradivarius · Post by **living_stradivarius** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:13 am

A good question is why self-censor with a euphemism if you're already going as far as to send a message like that

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