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NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:50 am

This restaurant has gotten a lot of play recently and we thought we would go to it with a friend on our next trip into NYC--I waited the 2 weeks Mission Chinese requires before making a dinner reservation for the Feb 15th date. This morning tried to make reservation-they had been using Open Table-now they have another reservation company and the policy is as follows--they wanted my credit card and cell phone number immediately so that they could text me-no phone calling or emailing for reservations for the restaurant could be made.

"Agree to Restaurant Cancellation Policy

Mission Chinese Food requires a credit card to book this reservation. No-shows, as well as cancellations or changes made within 6 hours of the reservation start time, will be subject to a fee of $25 per person, charged to the credit card used to secure the reservation."

Here's their website:

https://www.mcfny.com/

Too many other good NYC restaurants to bother with this one-we actually checked out the atmosphere of this place last month while in Chinatown-their lunchroom is very tight and that's the only one open for lunch-their dinner room was surprisingly attractive but with their current reservation system they can count me out. Regards, Len

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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by John F » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:42 am

Good heavens, New York is full of outstanding Chinese restaurants, so who needs another one with attitude?
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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:52 pm

John F wrote:Good heavens, New York is full of outstanding Chinese restaurants, so who needs another one with attitude?
John my feeling exactly and it's in a remote section of Chinatown as well. Regards, Len

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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:31 pm

You do love whine and moan Lenny, if you don't like it here stay in Jersey.
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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:57 am

Chalkperson wrote:You do love whine and moan Lenny, if you don't like it here stay in Jersey.
Chalkie but I do like it-aamof we love NYC-that's why Sue and I are spending more time than ever in it-still it's not perfect-my experience has been that the vast majority of restaurants in NYC don't have Mission Chinese's reservation policies. Last time we were in we checked out the place below on Nassau St--very impressive renovation. Regards, Len

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Post by Chalkperson » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:37 pm

I'd post more, but the members have said zilch about the new administration, its assault on America, and the Autocracy they are forming by turning the US into a Dicktatorship (sic)

Us who resist are not using #thatman's name, but #presidentbannon is dragging this country to its knees, and no CMG member seems to care.
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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:55 am

The potus deserves credit for raising the argumentum ad hominem phallucy to an art form.

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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:01 am

Chalkperson wrote: Us who resist are not using #thatman's name, but #presidentbannon is dragging this country to its knees, and no CMG member seems to care.
I think many of us care-I for one am so disappointed by all this-a lot of progress I thought the country had been making appears to be going down the drain-the next Supreme court pick alone will set us way back and what if Kennedy retires next. Not only that but the elections in 2 years don't look promising for Democrats. Regards, Len :(

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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:02 am

jserraglio wrote:The potus deserves credit for raising the argumentum ad hominem phallucy to an art form.
You got me-I had to look it up! Regards, Len :lol:

Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument.

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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:29 am

Chalkperson wrote:I'd post more, but the members have said zilch about the new administration, its assault on America, and the Autocracy they are forming by turning the US into a Dicktatorship (sic). Us who resist are not using #thatman's name, but #presidentbannon is dragging this country to its knees, and no CMG member seems to care.
To feel helpless when confronted by POTUS and his minions is not necessarliy to be apathetic. ACLU membership is readily available, and business there is booming. Successful challenges to Trump Tyrannus are likely to play out in the courts, not the streets, social media or legislatures. These efforts in the courts need to be adequately funded. Moreover, states attorneys-general are elected, thus sensitive to citizens who lobby them to challenge Trump Decrees that harm particular states.
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Post by John F » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:02 am

Since there's nothing any of us can personally do that can be really effective until the next congressional elections in 2018, it's naive to scold us for, well, doing nothing about it. We already have. I and my fellow New Yorkers have elected Chuck Schumer, Kirstin Gillibrand, and Hakeem Jeffries to the U.S. Congress and Andrew Cuomo as governor. They are leading the resistance to the new regime on our behalf where it can be most effective, in Congress and the statehouse. Jeffries' speech titled "Rise of the Resistance" last month is a sample:



The other arena of possibly effective resistance is the federal courts, and jserraglio has reminded us that the American Civil Liberties Union has long been and remains the organization through which governmental abuses can be challenged in the courts and often stopped and reversed. Those who want to follow his suggestion and contribute can do so here:

https://action.aclu.org/secure/protect- ... -liberties

Otherwise, I prefer to ignore the news as completely as possible. There's enough that I can and need to do something about, not to waste time and emotional energy on those that I can't. So other than this post, I have nothing at all to say.
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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:15 am

It seems unlikely that the legislature will be substantially changed in 2018. Congress is made up mostly of trimmers anyway. The best hope on that end, a highly unlikely one, is that Tyrannus will grossly overreach himself and force the legislature to impeach and remove. Short of that, also unlikely, would be to pass laws that check the executive and hope the Supreme Court won't strike them down.

My wife and I have already contributed to the ACLU for the first time ever; and, win or lose, I admire the efforts of states attorneys like the one in Washington State to derail the Trump Train in the courts. Now I see why the Founders gave us a republic where the states are given power to check federal tyranny.

Other than that, I will subscribe ASAP to the inexpensive digital New York Times. Thank you, Mr Trump, sir, for bringing the Times up onto my radar screen. Their political coverage of you is unequaled.

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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by John F » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:32 am

Right you are, and I've corrected it. Usually the party in power loses Congressional seats during off-year elections like 2018, and this time the Democrats have the most powerful motivation in years to get out the vote. The House may be out of reach because of gerrymandering, but not so the senate.

Impeachment? Never happen. The Republican caucus in the House is solidly behind everything that Trump is doing, though they might prefer to have a say in it, and after all he's nominally of their party. Not worth even thinking about. Now if the Democrats somehow manage to take back the House in 2018...
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Post by Ricordanza » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:38 am

Chalkperson wrote:I'd post more, but the members have said zilch about the new administration, its assault on America, and the Autocracy they are forming by turning the US into a Dicktatorship (sic)

Us who resist are not using #thatman's name, but #presidentbannon is dragging this country to its knees, and no CMG member seems to care.
I care, but I haven't posted anything on the Corner Pub since the inauguration because of overload: there's a new outrage from this administration every day (and sometimes more than one a day). What I have done is step up my efforts with interfaith groups which are working to combat the administration's attacks on refugees and immigrants.

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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:45 am

John F wrote:Usually the party in power loses Congressional seats during off-year elections like 2018, and this time the Democrats have the most powerful motivation in years to get out the vote. The House may be out of reach because of gerrymandering, but not so the senate.

Impeachment? Never happen. The Republican caucus in the House is solidly behind everything that Trump is doing, though they might prefer to have a say in it, and after all he's nominally of their party. Not worth even thinking about. Now if the Democrats somehow manage to take back the House in 2018...
The dems are defending a lot of red-state senate seats in 2018, the gop fewer. The dems blew their chance in 2016 when a lot of gop were on the bubble.

"Impeachment-never happen"? May I remind you that last fall most folks, you and I among them, were stating w/o equivocation: "Trump? Never happen." If the Red-Cap brigade fades away, the gop could actually gain by impeachment. Two magic words: Mike Pence.
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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:54 am

jserraglio wrote:The dems are defending a ton of senate seats in 2018, the gop a lot fewer. They blew their chance in 2016 when a lot of gop were on the bubble... Two magic words: Mike Pence.
While I feel very glum about the Senate chances in 2018 I don't see much hope in Republicans helping to impeach Trump for Pence-anyway Pence would be bad too. Regards, Len

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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:59 am

lennygoran wrote:...anyway Pence would be bad too
Of course the GOP are all honorable men who wouldn't think of plugging in Smiley Mike for Scowly Don.
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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:03 am

jserraglio wrote:Of course, but that assumes the GOP are all honorable men who wouldn't think of plugging in "Smiley" Mike for Scowly Don.
Could you explain this-I don't quite understand what you're saying. Regards, Len

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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:15 am

Every time Don Juan puckers up his lips he becomes a liability - "Look at that face - how can you sell rosacea face in 2020 as 'It's morning in America again'"? If Trump loses his Redcaps, the GOP might toss nasty scowly face and replace it with nice Pencive smiley face.
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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:20 am

jserraglio wrote:Every time Don Juan puckers up his lips he becomes a liability - "Look at that face - how can you sell rosacea face as 'It's morning in America again'"? If Trump loses his Redcaps, the GOP might toss him and replace him with a nice yellow smiley face.
Thanks, I could see Trump getting dumped in 2020 but how would Republicans go along with impeachment before then? Regards, Len

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Re: NYC Restaurant Too Highfalutin For Me

Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:27 am

lennygoran wrote:
jserraglio wrote:Every time Don Juan puckers up his lips he becomes a liability - "Look at that face - how can you sell rosacea face as 'It's morning in America again'"? If Trump loses his Redcaps, the GOP might toss him and replace him with a nice yellow smiley face.
Thanks, I could see Trump getting dumped in 2020 but how would Republicans go along with impeachment before then? Regards, Len
Judging by the past 2 weeks, DJT has a tendency to overreach, getting out over his skis and risking a tumble. Right now the GOP will use him. But what if he breaks his hand tumbling down the ski slope and can't sign their bills? What if Senators McCain and Graham conclude that Trump's foreign policy in effect serves the interests of a foreign power? What might happen then?
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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:41 am

jserraglio wrote: But what if he breaks his hand tumbling down the ski slope and can't sign their bills? What'll happen then?
The ski slopes-who would push him-Marla Maples, Ivana, Melania! Regards, Len :lol:

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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:52 am

lennygoran wrote:who would push him-Marla Maples, Ivana, Melania! Regards, Len :lol:
Rosie O"Donnell, our nation turns its desperate eyes to you.

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Post by jserraglio » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:12 am

ACLU v. DJT
Over 24 million raised since the Muslim Ban. Normally it's 4 million a year.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/30/news/ac ... donations/

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Post by Belle » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 pm

We are watching with interest from Australia as your polity adjusts to the new President.

Regarding the muslim travel ban and ensuing court action what I and my family and friends are wondering is this;

How come aliens are accorded rights under the American Constitution? Do I have these rights too?

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Post by jserraglio » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:26 am

Belle wrote:How come aliens are accorded rights under the American Constitution? Do I have these rights too?
It is a thorny legal issue, which Trump couldn't be bothered to navigate before plunging our land into chaos. "Shoot first, ask questions later" appears to be the M.O. of this alien currently residing in Washington, D.C.

As I understand it, probably incorrectly, you as an "alien" do not have U.S. constitutional rights and the POTUS has wide latitude on how to treat you or your family if he invokes national security. That being said, there are both constitutional and legal constraints on the President. First, he must always act according to the Constitution, so he cannot issue an order, for example, that would favor one religion or penalize another (forbidden by the "establishment [of religion] clause" of the First Amendment to the Constitution). Also, he must act according to the law, so he cannot issue an order that would favor one nationality or penalize another (forbidden by congressional statute). So indirectly, you do have rights. And if you enter the immigration system, e.g., if you are issued a visa or a green card, you must be treated according to prevailing laws and regulations and have a right to sue if you aren't.

Moreover, individual states (like the State of Washington right now) may sue the federal gov't if they can show the courts that they (e.g., their state universities) are being harmed by an unconstitutional or illegal Presidential order that also affects their alien residents. So if a particular state undertakes to defend you in effect from harm, in that limited sense you do have rights.

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Post by John F » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:55 am

jserraglio wrote:What if Senators McCain and Graham conclude that Trump's foreign policy in effect serves the interests of a foreign power? What might happen then?
Nothing at all. Articles of impeachment are brought by the House of Representatives; unless they are passed, the Senate has no say. It would be up to Paul Ryan, not McCain, Graham, or any other Senator.
jserraglio wrote:As I understand it, probably incorrectly, you as an "alien" do not have U.S. constitutional rights
You are wrong. See this regarding illegal aliens:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/i ... nal-rights

When visiting the US, Belle would be an "alien," i.e. not an American citizen, but a legal one. Whatever, she would nonetheless be eligible for the full protection of American law, including the Constitution.

Boy, has this thread gone off topic! Chalkie did it.
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Post by jserraglio » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:39 pm

House impeaches, Senate tries? that's been done a couple times. Senate convicts and removes? Unpresidented!

I was talking about persons outside the US, The Hill article you cite talks about folks already here. Would a Syrian villager who applies to the US govt. for refugee status have constitutional rights? That is what is in dispute.
John F wrote:Boy, has this thread gone off topic! Chalkie did it.
I reckon no gold stars'll be handed out after Civics class today.
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Post by lennygoran » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:33 pm

jserraglio wrote:I reckon no gold stars'll be handed out after Civics class today.
This decision will get stars from me!

Court Refuses to Reinstate Travel Ban, Dealing Trump Another Legal Loss

Regards, Len :D :D :D :D :D

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Post by jserraglio » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:33 pm

lennygoran wrote:Court Refuses to Reinstate Travel Ban, Dealing Trump Another Legal Loss
DJT's in a box. If national security is at stake, as he tweets, he must rescind and immediately replace this stupid ban. That would be a humiliating but smart way out of the box he put himself in.

If the District Court gets to hear this case on its merits, Wash. State will get "discovery", which would mean subpoenas of possibly embarrassing e-mails and depositions by the likes of Mayor Rudy as to the discriminatory intent behind the ban. And it will take months, a slow bloodletting.

If Trump appeals the Circuit Court decision to a 8-member SCOTUS, he is running a real risk of a 4-to-4 tie in the Supreme Court and that would mean that he loses his court battle.

Spineless Congress could bail him out by crafting a new immigration law. Failing that, Trump could invoke the nuclear option and defy the court, resulting in a full blown constitutional crisis and demands for his impeachment. Or he could obey the court, which would bring him right back to what he should have done in the first place--rescind and replace.

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Post by Chalkperson » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:20 pm

The Word for Today is Kakistography, Google it...
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Post by lennygoran » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:51 am

jserraglio wrote:DJT's in a box
How TWEET it is! :D Regards, Len

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Post by jserraglio » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:43 am

Chalkperson wrote:The Word for Today is Kakistography, Google it...
All I found was kakistocracy, so I'm guessing kakistography must be a coinage about the Donald's bathetic tweets. They are the worst and, dear donald, lose the caps.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 33d707548f

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Post by lennygoran » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:38 am

Wonder if the Republicans will allow an investigation to continue or will Adam Schiff and others be stymied in attempts to bring out the facts? Regards, Len

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Post by jbuck919 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Said the Republican father: "I'm so glad my daughter is about to lose the only health insurance she can afford, that she and the woman she is married to will be continue to be harassed and discriminated against, and that my businesses cannot benefit from the addition of new immigrant labor, especially from those who are educated and seeking refuge from what is even worse. I'm old enough and well enough off to get by, for the few years I have left, which is the only important thing, and I can hardly wait for the Republicans to start making lives miserable for those who will retire into soup kitchens and breadlines, in the meantime guaranteeing through their maniac deregulation policies another Great Recession. This is why I voted for them, and any contributions I go will go to their continued effort to withhold voting by the vast majority so that they can stay in power forever. I can hardly wait until 2018 and then 2020 to have this sense of gratification all over again.

Have I made my point? Jonathan Swift could not write a satire that would do justice to this situation.

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Post by Chalkperson » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:26 pm

John F wrote:
jserraglio wrote:What if Senators McCain and Graham conclude that Trump's foreign policy in effect serves the interests of a foreign power? What might happen then?
Nothing at all. Articles of impeachment are brought by the House of Representatives; unless they are passed, the Senate has no say. It would be up to Paul Ryan, not McCain, Graham, or any other Senator.
jserraglio wrote:As I understand it, probably incorrectly, you as an "alien" do not have U.S. constitutional rights
You are wrong. See this regarding illegal aliens:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/i ... nal-rights

When visiting the US, Belle would be an "alien," i.e. not an American citizen, but a legal one. Whatever, she would nonetheless be eligible for the full protection of American law, including the Constitution.

Boy, has this thread gone off topic! Chalkie did it.
I'm glad I did, because to avoid this discussion would be so wrong.
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Post by Chalkperson » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:28 pm

jserraglio wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:The Word for Today is Kakistography, Google it...
All I found was kakistocracy, so I'm guessing kakistography must be a coinage about the Donald's bathetic tweets. They are the worst and, dear donald, lose the caps.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 33d707548f
Sorry, autocorrect mistake.

kak·is·toc·ra·cies. Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. Origin of kakistocracy. Greek kakistos
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